Question about the one invisible green dragon tactic

[jynki]

Razorflame, with +- 10 k leadership at level one the portalspell gives me like 45 imps which rarely can take more than 3 hits, so that´s pretty wasted to use portal+magic spring. And i just don´t see how higher lvls of portal can be effective, lvl 3 costs 35 mana + the mana of the spring..?

[clinek]

sorry i havn't had internet lately and i wont for a few days (im at my friends) but here is some insight on what you need to do

you dont use that strategy throughout the whole game. You only really use it towards the end when the enemies become too hard to kill any other way (well pretty much any other way). Stick with all level 5 units like dragons and archdemons until you reach a high enough amount of leadership so that your green dragons can suck A LOT of mana from the enemies. fights like the orc heroes in elon, most fights in shettera and nameless, and almost all battles in Reha work well with this strategy. Dont pelt the enemy with fire rain or geyser every turn either. Instead, cast fire arrow and poisen skull on the biggest troops and dont use any other spell for a while. The poisen and fire damage will melt the troops into oblivion each round while you allow some time for your mana drain ability to be usable again. O and sorry, but no, there are no items that im aware of that boost your initiative that much (or any that im aware of). That is where the spell "fear" comes in handy. archdemons will be your only threat in this scenario so just make sure you take them out with excorsim/geyser/amageddon/death star asap. Keep in mind that this is not the only strategy out there, its just one that works 95% of the time for really huge armies.

Yes there is a strategy to get the enemy units closer together. Use the "grab" ability to pull enemies closer together so that you can suck out from 4 units instead of 3 (or 5 units instead of 4). Most of the time the enemies dont have a chance to move so the dragons kick ability does little use.

Razorflame, that does work for smaller enemies but later on the demons get crushed in one hit by enemies. If you have a lot of intellect, you get around 40-50 executioners (if your lucky enough to get them instead of demoness's). That 35 mana spent right there, you spend 5 mana on magic spring, then the 400 brontors take them out in 2 turns. You now have 10 mana after spending 40. Even if you cast stone skin (7 more mana and another spell that turn) they will still get wiped out pretty quickly.

Unfortuneatly, you will run out of mana evetually because troops do die after beating the shit out of them so what you must do is take out the archers and fast moving units before bears, knights, spiders, hyenas, ect. If you do this, it does not matter if you have any mana or not. You can just run away from the units and wait, once they get close to you, attack with one of your abilities. Repeat that until they are all dead.

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY IN THE MIND SKILL TREE THAT GIVES 2+ SPEED AND INITIATIVE TO ONE RANDOM UNIT. Since the stack of green dragon is your only unit, he will always recieve it. also, dont be afraid to use healing every now and then if you are low on health. healing is a must when fighting against the orc heroes in Elon.

[Razorflame]

Originally Posted by jynki

Razorflame, with +- 10 k leadership at level one the portalspell gives me like 45 imps which rarely can take more than 3 hits, so that´s pretty wasted to use portal+magic spring. And i just don´t see how higher lvls of portal can be effective, lvl 3 costs 35 mana + the mana of the spring..?

mana drain is the emerald green dragon ability

furthermore the INTELLECT depends on how much units you spawn

Originally Posted by clinek

Razorflame, that does work for smaller enemies but later on the demons get crushed in one hit by enemies. If you have a lot of intellect, you get around 40-50 executioners (if your lucky enough to get them instead of demoness's). That 35 mana spent right there, you spend 5 mana on magic spring, then the 400 brontors take them out in 2 turns. You now have 10 mana after spending 40. Even if you cast stone skin (7 more mana and another spell that turn) they will still get wiped out pretty quickly.


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i can spawn more than 40 executionars

anyways

there are abilities that can increase the spawning of the demon's portal

+ some items can do it too

but besides that a high intellect of 55+ renders your demons portal quite effective

and i'm sure the strat works on overpowered stacks also

just place a good demons portal(not in the middle of a crowd)

besides if u use the map well
u can block on path of from your units spawned from the demon portal(i do hope your egd is invisible)

in which case your spawned unit should lang enough to generate the mana

[jynki]

Clinek, You said in the impossible mage thread that its pretty easy to get 95% magic resistance, could you give an example of what combination of items/skills that gives you that?

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by jynki

Clinek, You said in the impossible mage thread that its pretty easy to get 95% magic resistance, could you give an example of what combination of items/skills that gives you that?

It is pretty easy WITH THE GIFT BAG. Without it, it is much harder.

The gift back introduces the Helm of Chaos item, that is fairly common. It gives 50% magic resistance by itself. In general:

50% Helm of Chaos
20% Mirror Shield
25% Anti Magic Diploma (from elon university)

You can also get 5% from leather dress, 7% from Guardian Angel. I think there might be a few other sources. Oh yes, the Mage robe thing that gives more and more magic resistance and mana as you level it up. Don't recall its exact name at the moment though.

[Razorflame]

mage cloack
or something like that