I think it's time for us to just sit down and wait for SoW to arrive.....

[Novotny]

Yes, we just have to wait, which is sometimes the hardest thing to do

I wait best for things I don't know are coming however we've known this is coming for so long that we've all become very impatient.

That's just being human. Unfortunately, being on the internets is not like being human and so people come here to vent emotive thoughts in ways they would never employ in real life.

I've waited what - 7 years? was this announced in 2003 or 2005? I can't remember. As frustrated as anyone else, I continue to wait and look forward to a new Oleg Maddox product.

I'd rather we already had it, but I'd like to think I've some appreciation of how complex the development is and the difficulties that have been experienced.

Now it's just my opinion, but I thought IL-2 was quite good. Perhaps the majority of you didn't like it. But given what we got with IL-2, I'm totally stoked about a new game from Mr Maddox and am sure it'll be great. Maybe IL-2 wasn't good enough for many of you, but I was very impressed indeed.

I hope he realises (and I'm sure he does, actually) that the most critical opinions tend to come from those most oblivious to the constraints of the medium worked upon and the time frame existing within which to produce said work.

But then remember: it's easy to pick faults. Nothing's perfect, so there's always scope to complain. It's a weak state of being, mind: to look for flaws when one could be appreciating the bigger (and much more beautiful) big picture.

Look for the beauty in life. Appreciate the positive. Don't be arseholes.

Or as they say round my parts: Wise up to yourselves!

[K_Freddie]

Oleg did make promises but there was a gap when 1C ventured ( a distraction from the promise) into the ..whats-it-ps2/wii/some-other-hand-held-rubbish to make a quick buck extension from IL2.

I think he burnt his hands here, as flight sims are not FPSs and you need a good rig to really enjoy the sim. So maybe he likes us again

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by K_Freddie

Oleg did make promises but there was a gap when 1C ventured ( a distraction from the promise) into the ..whats-it-ps2/wii/some-other-hand-held-rubbish to make a quick buck extension from IL2.

I think he burnt his hands here, as flight sims are not FPSs and you need a good rig to really enjoy the sim. So maybe he likes us again

Can you post a link, article or quote, please, where Oleg stated, that he promises BoB will be released at any given date?

Oleg has never actually promised but he has said in interviews that SOW would be released for the 2010 anniversary of BOB, he then went onto say that maybe it would go gold before but thousands would be playing by October. But he didn't promise it. I think in future Oleg should just say its done when its done, it would be better for him and 1C, because people are bound to ask questions, i remember when it was stated on these very forums that we would have a dedicated SOW website by the end of December 2008, or when Oleg said we would get system specs in may 2008, if you make these commets then you are bound to be measured by them, what i do think is unaacceptable is to not give an explanition as to why these dates were missed it wouldn't take much would it, just a quick sorry guys we are not there yet type of comment. Im 100% certain that Oleg will not make is intended September release date but i feel sure we will get the same as normal i.e no comment. And when anyone dares to ask the question of what as happened then they get flamed on here by the fanbois, and so it all starts again. But it is all getting rather boring now.

[Feuerfalke]

Yes, Tree. You are absolutely right. It would be much better if Oleg didn't say anything at all, post no screenshots and make no official statements.

After all, nobody could complain about always the same looking screenshots, nobody could take hints as promises or confirmation of personal expectations, nobody could wrongly quote allegedly statements and nobody would have a reason to be upset. Right?

[nearmiss]

Tree UK

Oleg is much more responsive to us than he has been in a long time. Luthier is available as well. These are two very good signs.

[Mysticpuma]

I'm trying to get the point over here guys that it really is a case of "going with the flow". I'm sure Oleg has all the key parts he intends to work on for the release already in place, it's just a case of putting them all together and then giving it to us (well offering to us, as to give means it would be free ).

I would think that as-much as we would all like to see this aircraft, or that effect, etc,etc the focus is now on getting what there is into a sale-able product and then internal Alpha/Beta and finally ready for Gold.

What I tried to make clear in the OP was, look, we are all excited about this, if we weren't we wouldn't be on the forums checking the status regularly, but there is no-point whining or complaining about what you would like to see, as whatever is going to happen...will happen.

The updates are interesting, but only video showing the sim 'in-action' makes me interested as I can get an idea of what will be in the future release. Images give you an idea of what visually there will be, but consider the Spitfire video.

You could see the aircraft shake, the shadows move, the water shine, all in real-time.

A still image just can't convey that? So while there can be complaints of how tracer looks and how flames aren't right (not my op.) only a video can show how the flames and smoke move, how the tracer looks, how the clouds move (I guess) and if there will be dynamic weather (I'm sure I heard you would take-off in sunlight then roll into a storm?).

But ultimately we are the consumers and Oleg is the supplier and until the sim is released we may as well just sit down, look at the Friday update,drink an ice-cold beer and look forward to the Simulation event of the decade (just not sure which decade though!)

Cheers, MP

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Yes, Tree. You are absolutely right. It would be much better if Oleg didn't say anything at all, post no screenshots and make no official statements.

After all, nobody could complain about always the same looking screenshots, nobody could take hints as promises or confirmation of personal expectations, nobody could wrongly quote allegedly statements and nobody would have a reason to be upset. Right?

Your missing my point a little bit buddy, Im not saying that there should be no updates or statements and as Nearmiss as said recently the communication as been very good, but it would be nice if any statements made or comments made were followed up if they failed to materialize, we are a forgiving lot that get confused by silence. For example if Oleg is not going to release in September or October a simple post from him telling us so cost him nothing and keeps us all in the loop, and most importantly stops speculation which in truth causes the most unrest on these forums.

Anyhow other than that I hope your well feuerfalke Ive not seen you around in a while.

[philip.ed]

The talk between Oleg and Luthier is really excellent. I like Luthier's talk; it's easy to see what the team are thinking through his posts. Additionally he's probably hurrying the team up so he can crack on with Korea.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Oleg has never actually promised but he has said in interviews that SOW would be released for the 2010 anniversary of BOB, he then went onto say that maybe it would go gold before but thousands would be playing by October. But he didn't promise it. I think in future Oleg should just say its done when its done, it would be better for him and 1C, because people are bound to ask questions, i remember when it was stated on these very forums that we would have a dedicated SOW website by the end of December 2008, or when Oleg said we would get system specs in may 2008, if you make these commets then you are bound to be measured by them, what i do think is unaacceptable is to not give an explanition as to why these dates were missed it wouldn't take much would it, just a quick sorry guys we are not there yet type of comment. Im 100% certain that Oleg will not make is intended September release date but i feel sure we will get the same as normal i.e no comment. And when anyone dares to ask the question of what as happened then they get flamed on here by the fanbois, and so it all starts again. But it is all getting rather boring now.

This may be your best post, and I feel the same way