Press Ministry Requests $17M for 1C's Patriotic Computer Game

[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by Antoninus

Interesting. I guess there is no need for Oleg now to release SOW this year and a lot more red planes are overmodelled debates in future.

Remember how everyone said the Russian airplanes were overmodelled compared to the German? Then Oleg pointed out that his last name was British. Then people started comparing the Spitfire and the P-51...

Good old days...

[Feuerfalke]

LOL, true.

Well, overmodeled was a wrong term anyway. IMHO most of the "superpowers" or "crippled features" of planes simply come from an explosive combination of things you simply can't model due to engine or data limitations and completely overexagerated user expectancies.

[nearmiss]

A historically accurate portrayal of the Eastern Front war from 1939 to the end would be a horror story beyond belief.

[Feuerfalke]

All fronts would.

[nearmiss]

An excellent book on the German ordeal on the Eastern Front

"Fighting in Hell" edited by Peter G. Tsouras

[katdogfizzow]

I must say this game has me more interested in history than ever before. After flying around in these awesome IL2 planes, I have a new found respect for history's pilots. There is no doubt these games can inspire you to pick up books for research and understanding.

From my own American standpoint, you don't get a real appreciation for some of history's battles and sacrifices until you have flown a simulation in a F4F against 100 enemy planes in formation over Midway or Dive-bombed the Akagi though a hail of flak and zeros....or flown over the English channel in a Hurricane against waves of 110s and 109s ....

Unlike some books or movies, there's no romanticism from the victors up in the simulator. You can clearly experience the epic power of the Luftwaffe or the Japanese as the war played out and really appreciate the skill, persistence and SACRIFICE it took to defeat these powers.

You can see by the comments in this thread that people need to learn and understand their history. If simulators let you walk the shoes of those involved, one hopes you come away from the experience with a new respect and understanding for those involved. It certainly worked for me.

Much respect

Thanks Oleg

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

What do you have to do to get the status of a superpower? Usually act like a jerk, make a mess of other countries and then address them in a condescending way (and get away with it by having more guns). IMHO, the United States, Great Britain and Russia have all been superpowers at some point or another

So true

[bugmenot]

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read the "patriotism" and "falsifications of history" part.

I'm sure Putin Jugend crowd would love a game like that nevertheless.

[dduff442]

Well I hear Burnt by the Sun 2 was a huge flop in Russian cinemas recently. The public aren't too enthusiastic about anything too official in the cultural realm.

Just about every industrialised country has incentives and tax breaks for cultural works of different sorts. The press release at the top of the thread could easily be a grant application to the film board of any number of countries. I did smile a bit at 'falsifiers of history'. When did they stop being 'bourgeois'?

Some of the replies in this thread (and one or two others recently) are way over the top. I don't see anything in this to justify mindless abuse of anybody's country. One or two posters seem to be on the look out for any excuse... not nice.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by dduff442

Well I hear Burnt by the Sun 2 was a huge flop in Russian cinemas recently. The public aren't too enthusiastic about anything too official in the cultural realm.

The film is incorrect in many things. In myu opinion - wrong fiolm from historical representation. Even my wife had dual opinion... about story line - like, about how other things are prepresent (read historical) - something close to the words very bad.

In Russia and (really in world at the moment) in fligth sims the WWII theme is doing just one team - it our team.
The goal is to make everything not overwritten and most possible correct.
The main principle - to do not rewrite history that we may see in some other games, books, etc. That is not only about western, but Russian modern production as well.
The main thing and my goal - gameplay should represent as more real things, as it is possible. This is about amount, technical parameters of units, etc...
Il-2 set the first such parameters in the word. Sow series shoulkd rise its bar mor higher.
I think you like Il-2 not for the nice graphics and amount of aircraft. But how it is done in priciple.

My English isn't perfect, but I hope you all understand what I mean.