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Old 04-27-2010, 10:39 PM
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It would be great to see the B-26 Marauder added to the sim... even if just AI. I wonder if Team Daidalos would have the same issues that 1C ran into with Copyright infringement if they did tackle the Marauder?
Why the hell a cockpit would be copyrighted?
It´s from a plane with more than 50 years old,and that was made for the Navy.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:04 PM
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I would like to ask a question about new g loading limits in 4.10: All fighters with no bombs, no rockets and no fuel tank ll have the same structural g loading in service limits, i mean 8G? Or this structural limit ll vary from aircraft to aircraft based on its project? For example, russian and japanese fighters wooden builded ll have minor structural in service limits?

There ll be some kind of reference where i ll known about my aircraft limits? Thank you!
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:14 AM
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Why the hell a cockpit would be copyrighted?
It´s from a plane with more than 50 years old,and that was made for the Navy.
Did you scan copyright as "cockpit"? I'm talking about the Marauder overall... which was designed over 50 years ago for the USAAF.
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Did you scan copyright as "cockpit"? I'm talking about the Marauder overall... which was designed over 50 years ago for the USAAF.
The 'copyright' saga is long-winded and confusing, and nobody directly involved seems able to comment on it - possibly as a result of a settlement in a legal case. You might get a clue as to what it is all about from here:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...hlight=grumman

Messy, unjustifiable, but something that 1C:Maddox have to take care over.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:26 AM
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Now that was the cumulus of avarice.
So many games,movies,drawings,comics have pacific airplanes,planes that have more than 60 years and are (obviously) not produced anymore.Do Grumman still even exist?
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Old 04-28-2010, 05:22 AM
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Now that was the cumulus of avarice.
So many games,movies,drawings,comics have pacific airplanes,planes that have more than 60 years and are (obviously) not produced anymore.Do Grumman still even exist?
Unfortunately, yes. As a legal entity. Or at least, a legal entity exists that holds the rights to 'Grumman'. I know it's c**p, you know it's c**p, but the legal system upholds it.

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Old 04-28-2010, 10:00 AM
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- would it be possible to give bombers like the He111H-6 and Ju88A-4,loaded with 4 "heavy" bombs outside, when bombing level with automatic a short delay between the release of each bomb, or at least a pair of them ?
in the moment it is most anoying as they are releasing all 4 SC500 together as example and are so more or less a point attack weapon .............................

-perhaps the low level turbulences below 350m could be restrictet to the weather settings rain/snow and thunderstorm ?
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:17 AM
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perhaps the low level turbulences below 350m could be restrictet to the weather settings rain/snow and thunderstorm ?
Er, why? If anything, I'd say IL-2 undermodels such effects.
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:11 PM
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The 'copyright' saga is long-winded and confusing, and nobody directly involved seems able to comment on it - possibly as a result of a settlement in a legal case.
I was kinda hoping that Team Daidalos being (I think) independant of 1C and also creating content on a not-for-profit basis might change things slightly for them. They could also avoid using any trademarked names and stick with the USAAF B-26 designation.

I remember well the ridiculous days of the Northrop Grumman dispute. I can understand wanting to protect intellectual property but I also understand that common sense is an uncommon commodity.

+1 the Shakespeare quote.
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:55 AM
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Did you scan copyright as "cockpit"? I'm talking about the Marauder overall... which was designed over 50 years ago for the USAAF.


The American legal system is copyright obsessed, they recently changed the law at the request of Disney to extend copyright to 95 years for corporations with an option to renew after that.

Ironically it goes completey against the original views of the US founding fathers who basically believed copyright should quickly evolve to public domain after the creator has had a reasonable chance to benefit from their ideas.

Personally I believe if Americans start to see their own favorite historical aircraft disappearing from games and the model shelves in hobby shops because of the stupidity of litigious US lawyers trying to make a few quick bucks well thats America for you


Meanwhile ... here is the top of MY wish list for a future patch

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