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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

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Old 02-17-2010, 02:48 PM
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A lot more response from Anton concerning console sequel, reasons for updating PS3 only, PS3 v Xbox sales, etc.....worth reading on the Yu-play forum...........
Thanks for the update Evangels, could you (or someone) please cut and past the info you mention here? I can't get to the site right now.

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Old 02-17-2010, 06:36 PM
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Antoms answers are in blue..................names of people asking the questions not shown (in Italics).

hey anton just a quick question,what's your honest opinion about flight sims being on consoles?do you think that the market is there to sustain a continual community with DLC and other things,i ask because BOP is really the only one trying to do the full sim thing,the blazing angels games dont count an neither does heroe over europe.Or do you think that with all the problems regarding the bop patch for 360 and the fact sims are niche titles,that there is a future for them?


I think, they will be one or two more shots in this generation. Probably, from us
But I don't think DLC thing is going to work. Yes, DLC that was released by 505 was pverpriced, but there is no any other flightsim game on the market and 5% DLC buy rate would be reasonable - but it never reachs this rate.


there had to have been more sales for the 360


1. PS3 vesion outsells X360 version.
2. MS charges for update itself, Sony charges only for traffic.
3. PS3 could have been improved more (support of some PC USB flight-sticks, for example, is impossible).

So, for less money publisher made better update for more people. That was reasonable.
However, sells haven't been improved, nor for the game itself, neither for DLC.

I am not excusing anyone, I am just explaining. As for me, it would be very reasonable to make update for X360 version as well, while the game is still selling.
But I am not the decision maker here.


am i right in saying that now bop development is dead and i need to pin my hopes on you guys making a sequal??


We are very willing to make sequel (and are doing some development already, incorporating new features to Wings of Prey).
We hope, we'll sign deal with some publisher (developers can't release X360 game themselves, without publisher, even on XB Live) - the Birds of Prey was successful, probably not the best title of all times, but meets expectations.
We do not have publishing deal signed yet.



I gather from the above that the Xbox patch was never developed and that the sales of the patched PS3 version failed to improve (less than 5% sales for the DLC).

The PS3 was technically better in that it supported PC joysticks and the cost of releasing the patch for the PS3 was far cheaper than for MS Xbox due to differences between Sony and Microsoft regarding the costs of updates.

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Old 02-17-2010, 06:46 PM
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Anton - "We are very willing to make sequel (and are doing some development already, incorporating new features to Wings of Prey).
We hope, we'll sign deal with some publisher"


Hopeful news...thanks Evangels

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Old 02-18-2010, 08:32 PM
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If your going to do a sequel, do us all a favor and play some of the Current top of the heap Multi player games.

Heroes of the Pacific for PS2 had a better lobby system than BoP.

We want in depth stat tracking, completion updates in real time(ala Gears 2 and ODST), and bragging rewards(skins, emblems for the plane, paint schemes, etc.) to name a few.

Also, a better hosting system that auto merges lobbies and migrates hosts, all things you expect from video games in the 2010.

I would much rather get a patch for the 60 bucks I already spent, though.
Needless to say, I won't be buying any video game published by 505 ever again.

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Old 02-18-2010, 11:16 PM
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only cost you $60?? It cost me $140 pre-ordered. Plus there is no flight sticks available in NZ, & it was gona cost at the LEAST $140 to get one sent over from OZ. so im real gutted that theyve washed their hands of this game.

Any more DLC gona be available??
Any idea on how long a sequel would take? 1 year, 2 years?
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:46 AM
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only cost you $60?? It cost me $140 pre-ordered. Plus there is no flight sticks available in NZ, & it was gona cost at the LEAST $140 to get one sent over from OZ. so im real gutted that theyve washed their hands of this game.

Any more DLC gona be available??
Any idea on how long a sequel would take? 1 year, 2 years?
The full game is out: it's called "wings if prey" for the PC.

Judging from the response of Anton, no DLC. I guess if your game isn't Ace Combat or Tom Clancy related, then no DLC for you.
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Old 04-02-2010, 09:48 PM
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Dear All

505 are releasing a submarine warfare simulator (WWII) so have e-mailed them asking how can I be sure they will support it after not supporting BOP. Suggest you might wish to do the same and keep the pressure on.

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Old 02-17-2010, 07:05 PM
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Well I am glad to hear this! Sounds like they are working on a console sequal (maybe 'Wings of Prey'??) and that they obviously will be going with a different publisher but have not chosen one yet. I am also glad to hear that 'BoP' has sold enough to justify a sequal.

Something has to be done about the availability and ease for buying great flightsticks for the XBOX 360.
I think Microsoft should just third party 'HORI' to produce more "Ace Edge" flightsticks and make them available at either Wal-Mart or Best Buy.... or Microsoft needs to open the market for compatable flightsticks for the 360.

Well, The devs did a great job on this game and I wish them continued success. It is too bad that 505 had to screw up the update and their relationship with the devs and the gaming community. HOWEVER this is still a GREAT game that is really fun! I am hopeful for the sequal and I wish that everything goes better for the devs this time around.

Thanks again 1C and Gaijan for your hard work and making such a great game!

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Old 02-17-2010, 07:59 PM
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The worrying thing is that any sequel may be a PS3 exclusive given the costs of updating and the better platform....anyone want to buy a an Xbox!
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Old 02-17-2010, 08:11 PM
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The worrying thing is that any sequel may be a PS3 exclusive given the costs of updating and the better platform....anyone want to buy a an Xbox!
Don't sell that XBOX just yet....

Anton - "We are very willing to make sequel (and are doing some development already, incorporating new features to Wings of Prey).
We hope, we'll sign deal with some publisher (developers can't release X360 game themselves, without publisher, even on XB Live) - the Birds of Prey was successful, probably not the best title of all times, but meets expectations.
We do not have publishing deal signed yet."



I believe the Devs will make the XBOX version also, makes sense, if your doing one, might as well do them both, it means more $$$ overall.
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