How to deal with Gremlion ?

[DGDobrev]

Anything with decent physical resistance (10%+) - Guardsmen, Horsemen, Orc Veterans (their counterattack ability is great), Demons, Executioners, Archdemons, and such. All of K'Tahu attacks are physical based. Having no knights will prove to be a problem though... Still, nothing 2x Stone skin can't fix.

Try playing with Paladins hitting his armored side (armored hand) and one other unit with good damage on his weak spot. This will give you 2 units hacking at him and 3 mopping up his summons.

That is, assuming you want to win the fight with minimal losses

[jake21]

Well I won the fight with massive losses. I don't know how you did it but the troups you suggested went down like butter. Even the orcs, trolls, dragons, and ogre went down like butter. About the only thing that seemed to have staying power was the paladin. Oh well at least he's dead.

[Zechnophobe]

So, against K'tahu your first turn as a mage should be to cast stone skin on two of your stacks. Same with your second turn. Don't attack with melee users unless against his weak spot, until you have stone skins up. Keep only one or two stacks hitting him, while the rest deals with his friends.

Trolls with Stone Skin are just about unkillable by ktahu.

[jake21]

I did use only two stacks (vertan orcs and paladin). Not the entire fight but much of it they had divine armor and stone skin. The vetran didn't last long. Not 100% sure they were hitting his 'weak' point; they were near the arms. Anyways even with them there k'tau still did area damage.

Anyways the game is over (only 86 quests so i missed a few). I have a saved game so I can redo the fight if someone has a suggestion I haven't tried yet but to be honest the fight wasn't much fun; but maybe there is a trick i'm missing. The final fight was a little easier; still a bit in the way of losses but victory was never in question.

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

So, against K'tahu your first turn as a mage should be to cast stone skin on two of your stacks. Same with your second turn. Don't attack with melee users unless against his weak spot, until you have stone skins up. Keep only one or two stacks hitting him, while the rest deals with his friends.

Trolls with Stone Skin are just about unkillable by ktahu.

[ender]

As mage lvl 56 I used 2 stacks: paladins and knight. If you don't have knights (not even in castle at debir?) you need another troop with physical protection instead.

I positioned paladins at his leg - paladins do the damage to ktahu and give another round to knights. Knights block paladins from moving backwards at ktahu leg kick and kill other troops (circular attack). In this aligment surface exposed for melee attacks is minimized. I don't use weak spot because ktahu will change position and paladin and knights are slow.

Paladin and knights will increase defense with 90% after some hits. With frenzy lvl 1 the knight will have a very high attack after a while.

Problematic troops are tirex - will fear paladin/knights - and gorguana with magic attack (stone skin will not protect from this, divine armor is expensive and it last less time)

I used wanderer scrolls before fight.
Spells: stone skin, dispel, geyser to reduce gorguana numbers, calm rage for more mana, phantom paladins or ressurect from time to time.

[jake21]

Yea i just went back and checked; no knights in verona or debir. I had enough for one stack this game and I used them in eron on gremlion.Kind of sad. In fact this game there were very few trolls and ogre also (not one complete stack of either @ level 55); i.,e 27. No demonologist loaded this game either. Hum. Maybe I was a bit unlucky.

[Starranger]

Originally Posted by jake21

Yea i just went back and checked; no knights in verona or debir. I had enough for one stack this game and I used them in eron on gremlion.Kind of sad. In fact this game there were very few trolls and ogre also (not one complete stack of either @ level 55); i.,e 27. No demonologist loaded this game either. Hum. Maybe I was a bit unlucky.

That is why I always try to buy every upgradable artefact. If I need a special kind of troops later in game, but could not find enough to got a full stack, then i buy some of the units and use the old Sacrifice/Resurrect trick during the upgrade of the artefacts to fill the needed slot. It is very easy to surround one enemy troop with stone wall or kill everything except a friendly gremlin, kill every summoned creature for rage, convert it by the dragon (not the spell) to mana and sacrifice every time the same troop for the needed troop. If you are PALADIN; you do not need to resurrect (will be done by your Resurrect skill). If you play Worrier or Mage, resurrect them by mana.

I also use this with low level enemys on the map to generate Dragons (in mid game) and to save as much money as possible to buy artefacts (for destroying) and runes.