Xbox 360 patch, any news?

[juz1]

just to remind my aging brain, does it actually cost the dev or publisher to release a patch. Anyone know how much?
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[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by juz1

just to remind my aging brain, does it actually cost the dev or publisher to release a patch. Anyone know how much?

As far as im aware all it costs is the time it takes to sort it. Guys still earn their pay packet so they should be doing it. Its a sore subject at the mo to be honest.

[juz1]

is there a queue for patches? ( or has everyone done too much meth over the festive season? )
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[FOZ_1983]

No que.

1) game has issues players complain it needs a patch
2) weeks later they amdit its got issues and they will patch it
3) months later they say the patch is ready
4) send it for certification with relevant company
5) they say its fine and then a couple of weeks later we get our patch, everyones happy


as it is were at stage 4 or 5.

Its straight forward to be honest, but IF MS have sent it back then to be quite frank it must be a shocking job they have done on the patch. At the end of the day its either with Anton and co or MS, we just dont know how to find out because nobody will tell us.

If everyone could establish what they know we could all piece this puzzle together, but its a bloody mass of confusion at the mo

In good time im sure we'll hear something from someone.

[ontheborderland]

It's quite possible that Microsoft's QA has picked up the problems with the patch that Sony's missed (custom layouts not really working, p-51 reverting to crap flight model when using custom layouts, no engine stall sounds etc...), so it's gone back for another round of development.

If that is the case, I'd personally rather wait a little while longer for a patch that does everything it said it would, but the question then becomes whether or not the developer are willing / able to sink more money into redeveloping it.

[The M00ps]

I doubt that Microsoft bothers to QA the playability aspects of the patch. They probably just check for technical compatibility with the console and Live.

[winny]

Originally Posted by The M00ps

I doubt that Microsoft bothers to QA the playability aspects of the patch. They probably just check for technical compatibility with the console and Live.

I think so

If I were a betting man I'd say the updates not out because of technical issues found during QA to do with the online game.

I don't think QA really bothers too much about game play it's a lot more technical (otherwise half the games out there wouldn't get released!). Although I am guessing!

I reckon MS have probably bounced it back to the publishers at least twice, it's been a long time.....

This is all just my theory and I'm guessing really. Maybe it'll appear.

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by juz1

just to remind my aging brain, does it actually cost the dev or publisher to release a patch. Anyone know how much?

It costs the developer the wages, rent and bills for the duration of development. The publisher may or may not pay for this (in this case, not). And it also costs the publisher to release the patch via Sony/MS. None of which they will see in returns.

I don't know how much the manufacturers charge to release the patch, but the average game industry worker salary in the UK* is around £30k/year (more if they're contract workers rather than permanent employees). So if you have 5 guys working on it for 1 month that is £12,500 in salary, with rent and bills on top.

*Note - we get shafted compared to our US counter-parts, but then I wouldn't want to speculate on the Russian salaries.

[juz1]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

It costs the developer the wages, rent and bills for the duration of development. The publisher may or may not pay for this (in this case, not). And it also costs the publisher to release the patch via Sony/MS. None of which they will see in returns.

I don't know how much the manufacturers charge to release the patch, but the average game industry worker salary in the UK* is around ??30k/year (more if they're contract workers rather than permanent employees). So if you have 5 guys working on it for 1 month that is ??12,500 in salary, with rent and bills on top.

*Note - we get shafted compared to our US counter-parts, but then I wouldn't want to speculate on the Russian salaries.

if people find I'm a bit partisan about this forum well its the quality of responses such as the above...

sincere thanks to all
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[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by juz1

if people find I'm a bit partisan about this forum well its the quality of responses such as the above...

Umm...not sure if that was positive or negative...