What exactly counts as Archers?

[travelingoz]

All you need is 1 stack of paladins and 1 stack of zombies and you can get 3 turns. Like this:-

Archers attack.
Paladins attack.
Cast phantom on paladins or zombies stack.
Next unit to act (either phantom or zombie) cast 2nd wind on archers.
Then next unit to act casts 2nd wind on original Paladin stack.
Archers take 2nd turn to attack.
Original Paladin stack casts 2nd(3rd?) wind on archers.
Bingo!

At least in theory anyway! It's 2 am here and i'm going to bed.

[Akimbo]

Originally Posted by travelingoz

All you need is 1 stack of paladins and 1 stack of zombies and you can get 3 turns. Like this:-

Archers attack.
Paladins attack.
Cast phantom on paladins or zombies stack.
Next unit to act (either phantom or zombie) cast 2nd wind on archers.
Then next unit to act casts 2nd wind on original Paladin stack.
Archers take 2nd turn to attack.
Original Paladin stack casts 2nd(3rd?) wind on archers.
Bingo!

At least in theory anyway! It's 2 am here and i'm going to bed.

lol, well done that does work. If you have one Archer unit it's definitely the best way to make the most of them. If you have 2+ archer units it's probably better to give them an extra action each. Only problem I'm facing is the Paladins awful initiative.

[DGDobrev]

Hmm, I'm kind of displeased with the archer party. I admit that they can dish a lot of damage in no time, but they are way too frail for my liking... Even if you babysit them as best as you can, you will suffer losses (playing on hard, impossible will be even tougher). They also tend to perform very poorly against bosses... But they are fun, I grant that.

[Akimbo]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

Hmm, I'm kind of displeased with the archer party. I admit that they can dish a lot of damage in no time, but they are way too frail for my liking... Even if you babysit them as best as you can, you will suffer losses (playing on hard, impossible will be even tougher). They also tend to perform very poorly against bosses... But they are fun, I grant that.

Against the normal "mobs" they perform just fine. Against bosses, I usually only take one with me, sometimes I may even reform my entire army depending on the boss. (Stupid guy in the Mirror tower I'm looking at you.) I also only play on normal mode, since I'm still taking my time over my first run through the game, but it seems if you want to perform well with no/few losses on hard or impossible then you're stuck taking a somewhat generic army through the game. (Paladins, Inquisitors, Mages etc.) On the otherhand though, people love Fairies and they're also very frail, but also a melee unit. I suppose it's mostly down to play style.

I think the most important thing is a decent tanking unit that can be easily ressed. Such as Paladins. Alongside the Target spell.

[DGDobrev]

Hmm, that's my problem indeed

Actually, come to think of it, there is one unit that can fit an archer party - that's the Mage of the Light from the Army of the Light mod. Mass ress, gift, healing, 30% physical resistance... That can be fun.

[Akimbo]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

Hmm, that's my problem indeed

Actually, come to think of it, there is one unit that can fit an archer party - that's the Mage of the Light from the Army of the Light mod. Mass ress, gift, healing, 30% physical resistance... That can be fun.

Ah, just checked the thread, seems it may actually be usable in the English game now?

I'm probably going to cut back on my archers soon, I'm on Shetarra and just found some executioners and Demonesses, so I want them in my force. They're actually not in my playstyle, too slow for my liking, but I find them more interesting than Archers. (I have almost the entire Demon set as well, with the whip etc. Just looking for the last part.)

[DGDobrev]

Well, I managed to get it working without problems by simply adding/replacing the english translation. I suppose there are still some bugs or something to work out (the missing images are still a problem, but I've gotten used to it).

As for demons, they can be fun - if you have a nice supply of demons and executioners, they rock