A plea to the players...

[irrelevant]

Originally Posted by philabong2

And any1 of u more experienced pilots that want to give me pratice sessions with cockpit view - please send me invite... got totally owned yesterday in these TB... couldnt see sh*t

LOL - that was plenty of fun. In my opinion, that is the way the game is meant to be played... in the cockpit. For me, it adds the level of realism I've been looking for... and it makes things TOUGH.

Mirgervin, Macademic and I were having a good laugh playing as a squad of P-51's. We were happy to get ONE kill in that match.

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by irrelevant

LOL - that was plenty of fun. In my opinion, that is the way the game is meant to be played... in the cockpit. For me, it adds the level of realism I've been looking for... and it makes things TOUGH.

Mirgervin, Macademic and I were having a good laugh playing as a squad of P-51's. We were happy to get ONE kill in that match.

Glad you were laughing too, cause it got pretty sad when we followed up the yak-3's with the sturmoviks. I think anyone with big hopes for the p51 in dogfight is gonna be disappointed. If Sturmovik is your plane, though, it's a lot better in dogfights than I expected, and nearly invincible if you use the gunner. If I recall right, even the la-5's were slaughtered...

I misspelled the name above, the PSN id is Beeano, case-sensitive.

I'm already disappointed with the 51. The tip stalls are still a big liability, even in arcade! It will stall in arcade and just hang there or do a couple flip flops. Totally out of control. I tried boom n zooming but its not fast enough to outrun a spit or 109. It still just won't turn tight enough, and if you try to force it-stall. You can't stay on anybodys tail long enough. I really don't understand what the hell the devs were thinking on a few things in this patch. Don't they fly there own products before dumping them out there? There is no American plane worth a damn in a dogfight. A 17 will get you more kills than a Mustang or Thunderbolt will. Spits, 109's and Hurri's are still the order of the day in Arcade.

[kozzm0]

The p51 was a fast plane because of a good airfoil and low drag, not because of acceleration. Its thrust-to-weight ratio was about 0.18 hp/lb, lower than the spitfires. If the spits are out-accelerating you, that's why. Spits don't have a high top speed, at least not in sim.

The p47 has even higher wing loading than p51 so it's a bad alternative as a dogfighter. There were better American dogfighters than those two. Some of the best Russian aces preferred the p-39 airacobra to their own yak's and la's, the p-39's were lend-leased to the USSR. In Europe most of the air-to-air fighting was centered around bombing which was a moving battle, which p51 excels at, not the anchored dogfights BOP is mostly about

[monyetension]

did anyone here see me in arcade? i play arcade most of the time...

you guys can add me & my only local friend his PSN id: fukairei

both of us often play together...

cheers!