New HOTAS!!

[fuzzychickens]

The cylinder on top of the warthog makes me think it is force sensing because it doesn't look like there is room for gimbals based on where the pivot point is.

So, like the x65, this won't be useful for most prop simmers unless they make the stick move a reasonable amount.

Looks like the CH fighterstick is still the best option on the market until CH gets their civilian warthog stick out.

[l88bastard]

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

The cylinder on top of the warthog makes me think it is force sensing because it doesn't look like there is room for gimbals based on where the pivot point is.

So, like the x65, this won't be useful for most prop simmers unless they make the stick move a reasonable amount.

Looks like the CH fighterstick is still the best option on the market until CH gets their civilian warthog stick out.

Seriously, the CH fighterstick is a piece of crap compared to the logitec G940. The G940 force feedback is simply amazing in IL2.

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by l88bastard

Seriously, the CH fighterstick is a piece of crap compared to the logitec G940. The G940 force feedback is simply amazing in IL2.

It is nice for FFB and nothing else in my experience. I spent an entire week trying to get the 940 working well enough before returning it, but the dead floppy stick in the center means that I lost accuracy esp when properly trimming out my plane - trying to aim around the center screws everything up.

No matter what FFB setting used on the 940, the CH fighter stick is better where it counts for me, getting bullets into your enemy instead of the other way around.

You can knock the fighter stick for not being fancy, but at least it does what I expect with regards to control inputs. That's better then making a nice buring hole in the ground with fancy FFB effects.

[l88bastard]

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

It is nice for FFB and nothing else in my experience. I spent an entire week trying to get the 940 working well enough before returning it, but the dead floppy stick in the center means that I lost accuracy esp when properly trimming out my plane - trying to aim around the center screws everything up.

No matter what FFB setting used on the 940, the CH fighter stick is better where it counts for me, getting bullets into your enemy instead of the other way around.

You can knock the fighter stick for not being fancy, but at least it does what I expect with regards to control inputs. That's better then making a nice buring hole in the ground with fancy FFB effects.

Funny, I am 10x more precise with the G940 and I had a year with the CH fighterstick. I dont' know what deadzone you are talking about, but the center of my G940 is very small and I can make all kinds of precise micro adjustments before any kind of FFB gets in the way (just like a real plane).

The CH stick is loose, sloppy and very toylike. It gave me no aid in putting holes in the enemy and it could care less if I was about to stall, because it never gave me any kind of heads up.

Don't even get me started on the throttle and pedals. IMHO the CH sticks are the most over rated piece of hardware periphal that I have ever used and saying that they are the best because of their build quality is like praising a for pinto that is guaranteed to last for 20 years of driving

[AdMan]

vowed never to buy a thrustmaster product again after purchasing one of their gamepads. My Saitek works just fine and has HOTAS and great force feedback

[Chivas]

I never liked the CH flight sticks much because of the clunky gimbals made accurate shooting while maneuvering difficult. Well the G940 is 10X worse. G940 electric centering ,forcefeeback, and very week tension around the center makes the CH stick feel smooth. Your constantly having to change input force drastically, making accurate shooting very difficult. Hopefully a patch will be able smooth out the rough edges of the G940, but I have my doubts that a software change will be able to do that.

I hate having going back to my MSFF2, Cougar Throttle, and Saitek pedals after investing so much money in the G940, so I will tough it out awhile longer, hoping things will get better. At the moment the The MSFF2 > G940 stick, Cougar throttle > G940, and the Saitek Pro Rudders > G940 rudders. I decided to buy a new Hotas because Windows 7 doesn't load the MSFF2 programming software.

Originally Posted by Chivas

I never liked the CH flight sticks much because of the clunky gimbals made accurate shooting while maneuvering difficult. Well the G940 is 10X worse. G940 electric centering ,forcefeeback, and very week tension around the center makes the CH stick feel smooth. Your constantly having to change input force drastically, making accurate shooting very difficult. Hopefully a patch will be able smooth out the rough edges of the G940, but I have my doubts that a software change will be able to do that.

I hate having going back to my MSFF2, Cougar Throttle, and Saitek pedals after investing so much money in the G940, so I will tough it out awhile longer, hoping things will get better. At the moment the The MSFF2 > G940 stick, Cougar throttle > G940, and the Saitek Pro Rudders > G940 rudders. I decided to buy a new Hotas because Windows 7 doesn't load the MSFF2 programming software.

I trashed my completely new X52 PRO stick and now Im on MS SW Precision pro + X52 PRO throttle

I think ill buy 2 MS SW FF2 PRO joysticks to have them in reserve.....Tried CH stuff, Aviator, Evo......CH is durable yes....but thats all what is good there.......all those sticks are crap crap crap when it comes to precision and theyr all uncomfortable.....except MS SW

[VA_Deacon]

http://www.gamingshogun.com/Article/...iew_Event.html


" In the new Warthog, this older system has been replaced by a H.E.A.R.T (HallEffect AccuRate Technology) sensor. This new sensor uses magnetic fields to detect accurate stick location. In fact, the new sensor is so accurate that it has a resolution of 65,536 x 65,536 different locations! "

[VA_Deacon]

http://www.gamingshogun.com/Article/...iew_Event.html

Originally Posted by VA_Deacon

"In the new Warthog, this older system has been replaced by a H.E.A.R.T (HallEffect AccuRate Technology) sensor. This new sensor uses magnetic fields to detect accurate stick location. In fact, the new sensor is so accurate that it has a resolution of 65,536 x 65,536 different locations! "

[Flanker35M]

S!

If you read SimHQ, there is a hands-on article of TM Warthog stating it uses Hall sensors. A HOTAS I will buy for sure. Only downside is that it lacks the port to attach pedals so need to buy USB pedals as well.