Daidalos Team's Room -QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS ONLY on IL2 Authorized Addons

[mkubani]

Users set up the standards based on their personal characteristics and preferences. Some prefer more quantity and less accuracy, other need just the opposite. You are one to choose, not us. If the IL-2 community respected the official developer of the sim, there would only 1 standard today - the closed official version 4.08 or 4.09. IL-2 was never intended as an open-architecture sim, no matter how many pro or con arguments there might be. The reality is different now, but please do not put us into the position to compete with the mods. It was never our intention.

Time is always an issue in everything but not because of your reason who gets "there" first.

[David603]

Originally Posted by mkubani

Users set up the standards based on their personal characteristics and preferences. Some prefer more quantity and less accuracy, other need just the opposite. You are one to choose, not us. If the IL-2 community respected the official developer of the sim, there would only 1 standard today - the closed official version 4.08 or 4.09. IL-2 was never intended as an open-architecture sim, no matter how many pro or con arguments there might be. The reality is different now, but please do not put us into the position to compete with the mods. It was never our intention.

Time is always an issue in everything but not because of your reason who gets "there" first.

I wouldn't nessesarily call modding Il2 disrespectful to Oleg, because everyone creating mods acknowledges that their work is merely building on what Oleg has already done.

Even Oleg himself has acknowledged that some of the Mods do thing he would have liked to do but did not have the time to do before Maddox Games discontinued support for Il2.

[Bulgarian]

Originally Posted by David603

I wouldn't nessesarily call modding Il2 disrespectful to Oleg, because everyone creating mods acknowledges that their work is merely building on what Oleg has already done.

David,it's hard to see the logic behind your words and their connection with the topic here.
Martin pointed out very well in pure English that DT's objective is not (and never have been) to compete with the mods.

[zaelu]

Originally Posted by Bulgarian

David,it's hard to see the logic behind your words and their connection with the topic here.
Martin pointed out very well in pure English that DT's objective is not (and never have been) to compete with the mods.

I think here you are missing the boat by some inches... The moding community is competing with you... either by collective "free will" or not. A sign of it? Think how long it took to major mod packs to include 4.09final.

Ghandi had a saying...

First they ignore you... then they fight you... then you win.

Many simmers were against moding at first and passed through the same stages... now is your turn.
You are trying desperately to ignore them but, before you launch the new uber duper patch with triggers and the rest "announced but is not sure it will be included" (the old story) ZUTI's MDS will be far away. And guess what... when triggers do come into view by a royal patch... they will be cannibalized and modified and improved cause this is what "open source is" and this is how a distributed system work.

Then you will fight them... and eventually out of resources...

Like it or not... IL2 is almost open source... intended or not. You have your chance to collaborate and help IL-2 be better in this "brave new world" or... you can try to obstruct the new normal course and turn your back to what IL-2 fans had worked.

And this discussion is on topic as it is trying to establish your exact attitude in regard of moding community and they workings.

[Bulgarian]

Originally Posted by zaelu

IL2 is almost open source...

This makes me smile.

Originally Posted by zaelu

And this discussion is on topic as it is trying to establish your exact attitude in regard of moding community and they workings.

Everyone is free to discuss their work elsewhere.
As far as it goes to the topic,this thread is named "Daidalos Team's Room -QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS ONLY on IL2 Authorized Addons" on purpose,I think.

PS:No hard feelings,since some people tend to think that I speak in offensive manner,my pardons to them.It's the way I speak.

[Sita]

Hello DT

Here such question
One good person undertook creations of a cockpit for Il4

The help is necessary!!! In a type of information, drawings or photos...

Who can help?... A question not only to DT... to all....

look at http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=880

may be it will be Authorized Addons with your help

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by zaelu

I think here you are missing the boat by some inches... The moding community is competing with you... either by collective "free will" or not. A sign of it? Think how long it took to major mod packs to include 4.09final.

What is it, this 'moding community'? What kind of competition do you mean? What is the prize?

Originally Posted by zaelu

Ghandi had a saying...
First they ignore you... then they fight you... then you win.

He also said 'Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress.' But what does it have to do with anything?

Originally Posted by zaelu

You are trying desperately to ignore them but, before you launch the new uber duper patch with triggers and the rest "announced but is not sure it will be included" (the old story)

You're wrong, we're trying to get some good mods into the patch alongside our own work.

Originally Posted by zaelu

ZUTI's MDS will be far away.

Zuti is in Daidalos Team FYI.

Originally Posted by zaelu

And guess what... when triggers do come into view by a royal patch... they will be cannibalized and modified and improved cause this is what "open source is" and this is how a distributed system work.

That depends... what if the authors decide to protect their work? What will these 'improvers' do about it? Can they do anything on their own? I guess they can. And the ones doing it well are helping us out already. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by zaelu

Like it or not... IL2 is almost open source... intended or not. You have your chance to collaborate and help IL-2 be better in this "brave new world" or... you can try to obstruct the new normal course and turn your back to what IL-2 fans had worked.

What do you think we're doing actually? (You see it all in black and white mate... read some more Gandhi please.)

Originally Posted by zaelu

And this discussion is on topic as it is trying to establish your exact attitude in regard of moding community and they workings.

Now this is the question. Unfortunately, majority of the 'MODs' won't meet the standarts set for official contents.

[zaelu]

Originally Posted by Robo.

Zuti is in Daidalos Team FYI.

Now that's worth of a thousand words

TY

[Tbag]

Just watched the videos in the SimHQ interview again and I really can't wait for all those features. Thanks a lot for all your hard work TD!

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by Robo.

What is it, this 'moding community'? What kind of competition do you mean? What is the prize?



He also said 'Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress.' But what does it have to do with anything?



You're wrong, we're trying to get some good mods into the patch alongside our own work.



Zuti is in Daidalos Team FYI.



That depends... what if the authors decide to protect their work? What will these 'improvers' do about it? Can they do anything on their own? I guess they can. And the ones doing it well are helping us out already. Simple as that.



What do you think we're doing actually? (You see it all in black and white mate... read some more Gandhi please.)



Now this is the question. Unfortunately, majority of the 'MODs' won't meet the standarts set for official contents.

This sounds great!
As looking at some of the stuff being made as mods, like for example a "new" Luftwaffen pilot, that stuff is just terrible! Who ever calls that progress, is dearly needing a set of glasses and a good look at some books!