Discrepancies to point out

[DGDobrev]

In any case, the trap can be used to stop the enemies' advance, so you lose nothing this way. Use it for that and be happy

Oh, wait. in addition to stopping them, you want a medal for that. Well, in my opinion, that is a bit selfish. If you want the medal, do it the proper way. There are 300 battles in the game. Successfully trap 1 unit each 3 battles (and that doesn't cost a lot of nerves) and you will get the medal.

And with all due respect, nobody forces you to get that medal. It doesn't do anything to improve the score. In fact, as a warrior and paladin, where you need to take the fight to the enemy, those traps on the battlefield will simply hinder your tactical options. As such, I fail to see what is the problem and why are you unhappy.

[Mandea]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

Oh, wait. in addition to stopping them, you want a medal for that. Well, in my opinion, that is a bit selfish. If you want the medal, do it the proper way. There are 300 battles in the game. Successfully trap 1 unit each 3 battles (and that doesn't cost a lot of nerves) and you will get the medal.

And with all due respect, nobody forces you to get that medal. It doesn't do anything to improve the score. In fact, as a warrior and paladin, where you need to take the fight to the enemy, those traps on the battlefield will simply hinder your tactical options. As such, I fail to see what is the problem and why are you unhappy.

no it's not selfish. those ways you suggested in the first page of the topic are impossible to use in the beginning due to lack of those troops and abilities. and in the late game I can see no reason to use trap.

not to mention that you have to use trap in the first round of the fight because in round 2 you are already engaged in hand-to-hand combat and it's pretty useless to use traps. and you can't kill anything with it. and you can't have another spell that round. it's probably more usable with the mage who can cast more spells per round and maybe in 2 rounds you can have manny traps placed.

i'd rather have trap medal without killing, but with more uses.
I want to get all medals, that's what I want, no matter warrior, mage or palladin. it's about self-respect
but the way it's been designed is rather akward.

I hope to see it changed in a patch.

[DGDobrev]

Weird. Now why do I managed to get the trap medal to lvl 3 by fight No. 97? Because I'm a mage? Good. Fine, good point. Now why did I manage to get the trap medal to lvl 3 on my 142nd fight as a paladin with only 14 intellect?

After I'm done with the mage on impossible, I'll do an impossible playthrough as a warrior and see by what point I can get that medal to lvl 3. Calinda already did it. Check the high score thread. I know he's a hardcore player, but this also means that everyone can do it.

However, I still do not understand why you people are so displeased with that medal. It is hard to get. Get over it and start devising tactics that can utilize it fully. Also keep in mind that as soon as you get 1-2 traps on the field, the medal pretty much improves itself, as many enemy troops would step on it and die.

Also, suffice it to sat that this game can be played in various ways - not only by using Target + Magic shield.

[Mandea]

I dont know how you managed but let me tell you how manny things I have to try to achieve in every single fight, especially in the beginning:
- no loss
- chest hunt
- poison or burning (arrows etc)
- trap
- use as much rage as possible.
- use bless/resurection/sotne skin or any other spell for a medal
so I feel like I'm being used, like being kept in a tight leash.

maybe I try to achieve too manny things at once. but if I succeed, the rest of the game is much easier.

[Urbz]

Originally Posted by Mandea

I dont know how you managed but let me tell you how manny things I have to try to achieve in every single fight, especially in the beginning:
- no loss
- chest hunt
- poison or burning (arrows etc)
- trap
- use as much rage as possible.
- use bless/resurection/sotne skin or any other spell for a medal
so I feel like I'm being used, like being kept in a tight leash.

maybe I try to achieve too manny things at once. but if I succeed, the rest of the game is much easier.

I think alot of players do this to a certain extent ( myself included ) because achievemnts are just simply a great way to enhance a game.
No one is telling us how to play though, you dont get extra score for the medals ( gladly I guess ) so you can play how you want, which is great!


@ DGDobrev: it's simple, most people are just hard/impossible to please. I'd personally love more harder medals/achievements, anyhow I love the feature which is all that matters, fun counts is my motto!

[Mandea]

yeah, ok, but when you add into ecuation a tough difficulty level every fight seems like chess, and I'm sorry, had I wanted to play chess, I would have played chess.
a lot of time is save/load.

to me it doesn't have logic with trap being used for final blow. but that's just me

[Meow]

Yeah somehow these medals aren't working out to be much fun for me either.

I'd agree with the sentiments that traps should be for units killed, or number of groups stopped, or something sensible.

But something is just not right with the whole process. My games consist of walling of a unit and berzerking him 10x in a row each battle. I then move on to stone skin 10x in a row. I use inquisitors and phantom to summon endless rage to level my dragon. And I dig three chests every battle. And I wall off, sleep, whatever the enemy each battle until I get that done. I've used 3000 rage now in 9 battles. I wouldn't call that fun... but the game heavily rewards such play.

I head into each battle not with the intention to decimate the enemy as best I can, but rather to tick off as many medal check boxes as I can, and to lvl my dragon as much as possible.

In an ideal game I shouldn't have to choose between fun or making the most out of my character. That's what mmorpgs are for.

[DGDobrev]

Well, I managed to do it in pretty much every single battle, even on impossible. There were a few tough battles where I didn't manage to do it fully, but that is to be expected.

Here's my battle stats. I'm sorry for the sloppy cutting and pasting in Paint, but that was the fastest I can do on such short notice

NOTE: 150 battles is what I did so far. I'm just getting to the orc lands, so my +int medal is about to rise.

[Mandea]

well, those stats don't say anything about type of play, and most of all it doesn't mean we can all do that easily. my point is: in the beginning because I strive too much to get the medals, I have no fun while playing (and that's the whole ideea). later on, yes, it's fun, but right now I don't like it.