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11-21-2009, 01:12 PM
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Well i ony launched a game for a while on my game i have started with sneaking and i went up to rusty anchor. When i come back to debir i see there is one stack of cyclops in undergruond cave ..
i am not going for no loses run but hell i wonder how masters of this game would deal with it ... i have just 6 inquis .. there is no way i cant lose any unit agianst cyclops since i have only 1 res its not enough to kill 650hp cyclops with his resistances on one turn ... My armie is inqi catapult griffin droid guard evil beholder ..thats what i found to get without fights on rusty anchor .. thinking about royal sankes and those 4 royal torns from debir.. Oh and i refused traing fightsm did i lose much ? Last edited by Elwin; 11-21-2009 at 01:34 PM. 
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#2
11-21-2009, 02:18 PM
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@Zhuangzi
I think the 2 dragons will be a really good addition. Using them will boost your battle alchemy medal. You should also be careful, since only the inquisitors can resurrect them (paladins ress only 1-4 level units). Royal thorns spawned on 4 out of 7 playthroughs in the barbarian chieftain ship (the one who gives you the quest for his wife) on Bolo island. Still, you may not have been so lucky. As for the monetary problems, they will be a pain throughout the early game, at least until level 25 or so. As for the fun, KBAP provides plenty of it. You will also notice that with all the rebalancing done, it is much easier to grasp and play without utilizing numerous exploits, as it was in KBTL. Another thing you can do is to get the treasure searcher ability to 3 chests/2 altars or 3 chests/1 altar if possible (dunno if it was). Generally, there are 4-5 useful dragon skills, which as a warrior you should improve to the max in my opinion - Treasure Searcher (money FTW), Ball of Lightning (Acts as Reaper's soul drain ability, killing % of the stack), Mana accelerator (25 rage for 25 mana, great for phantoms), and battle rage (hits all units in an area with ASTRAL damage). Crushing blow and diving dragon are useful in the mid-game, but by the late game they go obsolete, as you will do little damage with those abilities. Lava flow and Mystic Egg are nice, but lava flow is fire damage and Mystic Egg takes a turn to hatch - and usually the AI targets it first. EDIT: Oh, BTW, sell any wanderers' scroll you don't need in the early game. They will provide a nice amount of cash. If you were digging with the dragon regularly, you should have 3-4 from fights and a few from maps. Also hold on to the "Call Collosus" wanderers' scroll. You never know when you may need the extra level 5 unit's firepower  @Elwin Well, you missed 2 fights (they also count to no-loss victories), a few gold coins, one random lvl 1 item, a training sword (+1 atk) and a buckler (+1 def). Generally, it's not much, but if you luck out with a +100 leadership belt, it is a nice boost in the early levels. EDIT: On a side note - let's not forget that not only the trading skill is gone, but in KBTL the gold income on impossible was 60%. In KBAP it's 50%, which makes the things even more difficult. Now, play a mage and slap an Usurer's Ring on (+5 intellect - great!!! -30% gold income - EEEK!!) and see where will you go 
Last edited by DGDobrev; 11-21-2009 at 07:37 PM.
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#3
11-22-2009, 06:09 AM
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Zhuangzi; the dragons will help a lot, especially if you have Target and Archmages Shield ability. However they really hurt your Royal Griffins Atk and Def due to low morale so you'll have to see if this balances out for you. (Maybe you'll find the King's Portrait on Verona
) BTW what day/time are you up to now? I want see if some early sneaking balances out or not in terms of mission time.Elwin; did i read that right? A cyclops on Debir? In the Cave? I've never seen that before! The only level 5 unit i've ever seen on Debir or Scarlet islands is the green dragon on the pirate ship! 
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11-22-2009, 07:42 AM
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I can't find more than 4 Archmages either, which is odd. I am up to day 8 already which is okay because I'm going for zero losses, not speed/high score. 78 fights without loss now.
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11-22-2009, 09:39 AM
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Well, Zhuangzi, as for the royal thorns, you either use sacrifice, or you don't use the royal thorns at all in battles vs. heroes. It is extremely irritating watching them die from a random hero's Flaming Arrow.
The key to doing no-loss victories is flexibility. The more flexible are your troops, the better your chances of doing so. This is why switching between Royals and Dragons (so that no penalty incurs) will greatly improve your flexibility. As for the Archmagi, I found them in the early-game in Debir (mage tower, after you take a second stone of gods), the temple in Verona, the Mage tower in Verona and the Mage tower on the Elon continent (but I doubt you'll have that map yet). Keep your eyes peeled for some druids. If you manage to luck out with some, they will greatly add to your troops effectiveness. They are good as both summoners and rage-hoarders (because of their Necromancer-like 9-cell attack).
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