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Old 11-10-2009, 11:31 AM
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With the small angle it is all clear, however with angles of 30 to 60 degree is also possible ricochet - it is very well visible on some videos of WWII time.
Are you sure this isn't due to the shell ricocheting just past the crest of a wave in heavier seas? It seems to be a bit too complicated to model with a high degree of accuracy without huge amounts of processing power, though, apparently :
"Naval gun and armor
manufacturers use very powerful computers with computational fluid dynamics
programs to get approximations of how artillery rounds will perform against
ships and other hardened targets.
As you have learned empirically, angle and velocity are important factors
in ricochet, but there are many others; mineral content of the water,
temperature, shape of the projectile, rate of spin of the projectile,
hardness of the bullet, any deformations or imperfections on the surface of
the bullet, etc."
I tried searching my university's ejournals selection but unfortunately the most relevant study was that of ricocheting a 9mm bullet from shallow water, but I believe it was more concerned with the depth of penetration before the ricochet occurred. Another study was concerned with ricocheting of non-spinning projectiles. I can dig those up if you guys want.

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Old 11-10-2009, 11:43 AM
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Are you sure this isn't due to the shell ricocheting just past the crest of a wave in heavier seas? It seems to be a bit too complicated to model with a high degree of accuracy without huge amounts of processing power, though, apparently :
"Naval gun and armor
manufacturers use very powerful computers with computational fluid dynamics
programs to get approximations of how artillery rounds will perform against
ships and other hardened targets.
As you have learned empirically, angle and velocity are important factors
in ricochet, but there are many others; mineral content of the water,
temperature, shape of the projectile, rate of spin of the projectile,
hardness of the bullet, any deformations or imperfections on the surface of
the bullet, etc."
I tried searching my university's ejournals selection but unfortunately the most relevant study was that of ricocheting a 9mm bullet from shallow water, but I believe it was more concerned with the depth of penetration before the ricochet occurred. Another study was concerned with ricocheting of non-spinning projectiles. I can dig those up if you guys want.
I will clear right now my box, so you will be able to post there email
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:07 PM
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I will clear right now my box, so you will be able to post there email
What would your e-mail address be, Oleg?

EDIT: Never mind, Dolphin pointed me in the right direction, give me a shout if you need it sending again. Hope this helps!

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Old 11-10-2009, 12:23 PM
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I was wondering if the time had not come for a seperate SOW game thread in the Official 1C Company Forum...
May I dare ask if the sim is currently in the early Alpha phase or has it already reached early Beta?

Lol
While I doubt you will answer the above maybe you can indulge me with the following question.
Will glass shatter when hit or will the canopy damage be the same as in il2.
I am in particular thinking about the Heinkel 111 with its massive glass nose section?
I know this has been asked before but will different positions be manable in a bomber and more importantly will a gunner 1) be able to move around from position to position and 2) will the gunner be able to reload guns?
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:28 PM
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I was wondering if the time had not come for a seperate SOW game thread in the Official 1C Company Forum...
May I dare ask if the sim is currently in the early Alpha phase or has it already reached early Beta?

Lol
While I doubt you will answer the above maybe you can indulge me with the following question.
Will glass shatter when hit or will the canopy damage be the same as in il2.
I am in particular thinking about the Heinkel 111 with its massive glass nose section?
I know this has been asked before but will different positions be manable in a bomber and more importantly will a gunner 1) be able to move around from position to position and 2) will the gunner be able to reload guns?

We have no Alpha in principle. We are going for Beta. Same was with Il-2. it isn't like with other games in industry.

Separate thread will be. But later. We will ove in other office, atc. So utill that time there will be no chnages and we will all post here.

Yes, will be possible. Without animations.
Yes, reload also possible.
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