Will Mordern Warfare 2 take the last few remaining players from this game?

[Lexandro]

Originally Posted by PedroTheGoat

Wow... Pretty bold statement seeing as how the game isn't even out yet.

Don't get me wrong... I don't think MW is the best game in the world... Nor do I expect MW2 to be the best game of all time...

But your statement makes no sense. MW2 is poised to be the #1 selling game of all time. (Unless you want to count Wii Sports into the equation)

Soooo... The game has over 2,000,000 preorders for both platforms... And that was a month ago. Yeah... IW is definitely on a death spiral. And like you Lex... I can definitely tell you that MW 2 is going to be garbage... Because we've both spent hours already playing it.

AND... If there's problems with the game... I doubt Infinity Ward is going to be able to put out patches to fix any issues. (That was a direct shot at 505)/Sarcasm

Lex... Your statement was just plain ignorant my friend.

Its not ignorance my friend, its experience. Ive seen exactly the same circumstances of a dev houses failures and I see the same pattern emerging with IW.

You see its like this; First of all they have basically given the PC gaming players the finger and told them that there will be no basic PC features in the title, everything will be console generic. In other words, no mods, no custom maps, no dedicated servers, no admins.

What that means its that online its going to devolve in to spam fests and camping 24/7 with no way of sorting it (since no admins!). Coupled with constant rage quitters/hackers/bot users/total a-holes/ and TK buddies online mode is going to die a very very quick death.

Now you can say that the console sales should overway these factors, but remember this. Just because I may own a console does not mean I dont also game on PC. So I am one sale thats never going to happen on any platform. Now expand that to the general number of console owners and you seeing a sales hit already. If you go by the number of people who have signed the petition against MW2, and that holds true of lost sales then that is one serious financial hit.

Now Im not saying the dev house is going to die overnight, its not Flagship studios (what a failure!) but once you loose what is considered a core fanbase you loose respect. Similar design decisions are taken again and again, and it in turn alienates more and more of the fanbase till your hanging on by a thread.

[PedroTheGoat]

Originally Posted by Lexandro

Its not ignorance my friend, its experience. Ive seen exactly the same circumstances of a dev houses failures and I see the same pattern emerging with IW.

You see its like this; First of all they have basically given the PC gaming players the finger and told them that there will be no basic PC features in the title, everything will be console generic. In other words, no mods, no custom maps, no dedicated servers, no admins.

What that means its that online its going to devolve in to spam fests and camping 24/7 with no way of sorting it (since no admins!). Coupled with constant rage quitters/hackers/bot users/total a-holes/ and TK buddies online mode is going to die a very very quick death.

Now you can say that the console sales should overway these factors, but remember this. Just because I may own a console does not mean I dont also game on PC. So I am one sale thats never going to happen on any platform. Now expand that to the general number of console owners and you seeing a sales hit already. If you go by the number of people who have signed the petition against MW2, and that holds true of lost sales then that is one serious financial hit.

Now Im not saying the dev house is going to die overnight, its not Flagship studios (what a failure!) but once you loose what is considered a core fanbase you loose respect. Similar design decisions are taken again and again, and it in turn alienates more and more of the fanbase till your hanging on by a thread.

All valid points Lex. I just did a bit of research and found all of this to be spot on. They are screwing the PC crowd. I doubt they are that concerned though. PC would only be a mild percentage of their overall sales even if they did take the time and cost to make them happy.

PC gaming is dying. We're left with MMO's and a few other niche genres. Gaming companies have all moved towards the console... Because that is where the money is. The average consumer gave up long ago on trying to keep a top of the line gaming rig.

IW is going to laugh their way all the way to the bank as they sweep the PC crowd aside.

[RobertHammyGrayVC]

Originally Posted by PedroTheGoat

Because that is where the money is. The average consumer gave up long ago on trying to keep a top of the line gaming rig.

IW is going to laugh their way all the way to the bank as they sweep the PC crowd aside.

I think this is bang on. I haven't played a PC game since maybe 2000 or 2001. The keeping up was just insane. You would go and buy a new game, and guess what? The freaking video card on your 1 year old machine wasn't good enough. Nor the sound card. And guess what? Now you need RAM. Ugh.

I moved to Mac aeons ago, and just buy a new console when the new Xbox editions come out. For the price of just and upgrade in the PC world, I get years of happy gaming on my Xbox. Sure, I had one die, once, so what? Still cheaper than monkeying around on the PC machine.

My Mac does all the other stuff a computer should do - internet, word, whatever, and by not being a PC gamer, I don't have to upgrade my Mac as often either. Which means I can buy all the Xbox games I want, when they come out!

Win. Just win.

[mattd27]

Originally Posted by RobertHammyGrayVC

I think this is bang on. I haven't played a PC game since maybe 2000 or 2001. The keeping up was just insane. You would go and buy a new game, and guess what? The freaking video card on your 1 year old machine wasn't good enough. Nor the sound card. And guess what? Now you need RAM. Ugh.

I moved to Mac aeons ago, and just buy a new console when the new Xbox editions come out. For the price of just and upgrade in the PC world, I get years of happy gaming on my Xbox. Sure, I had one die, once, so what? Still cheaper than monkeying around on the PC machine.

My Mac does all the other stuff a computer should do - internet, word, whatever, and by not being a PC gamer, I don't have to upgrade my Mac as often either. Which means I can buy all the Xbox games I want, when they come out!

Win. Just win.

amen. Almost my exact rational. The upgrading is just ridiculous, and I'm loving my mac/360 combo. My only regret is the inability to play 1946(have I made that clear enough yet? )

[xX-SiLeNcE-Xx]

Originally Posted by mattd27

amen. Almost my exact rational. The upgrading is just ridiculous, and I'm loving my mac/360 combo. My only regret is the inability to play 1946(have I made that clear enough yet? )

LOL, your sig is awesome... lol. I don't think I'll ever buy another "gaming" PC again. I bought mine last year in Late November, and it's pretty much outdated now =|

[Lexandro]

I honestly dont see the problem in "keeping up" with the hardware. Ive got a 3 year old rig and its still giving me great gaming and good performance on pretty much every single game I throw at it. I havent updated anything other than adding in more storage space. And its not even a "top end" rig for its day, its a budget computer.

The only game Ive had any kind of performance problem with is Crysis. And practicaly everyone does, so thats no biggy.

My comps an AMD X2 @2.7ghz/2x1gb DDR2/ATi HD3870 512. I havent yet had a game on this system thats made me need to upgrade. This from a sub £400 PC 3 years ago.

Dont be fooled, PC gaming now has been pegged for ages. Its barely had any development done beyond console level.

[juz1]

I think the terrorist level where you walk around an airport machine gunning scores of screaming men and women is gonna cause MW2 big problems with certification...just seems a step too far...Makes GTA look like Rainbow Island (tm)
Activision has been pulling down clips off youtube left and right...
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