What is the most up to date IL-2 PC sim?

[reverend66]

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx

Some questions here:

1. When I fly the Bf-109's, the position were he's sitting seems wrong... Like the aiming reticle is too far to the right. How can I fix this?

Shift+F1 (maybe F2 but it's one of those)

[xX-SiLeNcE-Xx]

Originally Posted by MorgothNL

It is just getting used to. There is one thing I really prefer in BOP sim mode, and thats the 'no external views', only cockpit/virtual cockpit.
In 1946 there are some servers with cockpit only, but those are 100% hardcore servers, with no icons (teams are not blue/red so figuring out friend/foe is 10x harder than in BOP).

I like 1946 and play it just as much as bop. What keeps me getting back to BOP, is the fact that I dont like to fly in 3th person all the time, being able to look in every direction with you mouse. Kind of ruins the 'sim feeling' for me.

Also in BOP you see a lot of action. In 1946 you have 75min games, where you only get 3 kills, and the rest is flying to enemy target zone, and back home. (I like the landing and taking off, but sometimes you just want to shoot down a hell lot of planes BOP!)

I think I'm gonna use 1946 as more of a screw around type of game, and BoP as my mroe serious game. I like the action in BoP, it's a lot more than 1946, I just wish there was a no respawn mode....

[xX-SiLeNcE-Xx]

Originally Posted by reverend66

Shift+F1 (maybe F2 but it's one of those)

Sorry for double post, but thanks, I'll try that.

[MorgothNL]

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx

[*]When I fly the Bf-109's, the position were he's sitting seems wrong... Like the aiming reticle is too far to the right. How can I fix this?

just look for 'gunsight view' in the controls, you can just set your own key for it

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx

Some questions here:

1. When I fly the Bf-109's, the position were he's sitting seems wrong... Like the aiming reticle is too far to the right. How can I fix this?
2. When flying the B-25, how do I get into the bombing mode. I no on the Pe bombers I press "C", but that doesn't work for the B-25...
3. How do you use the map fricken impossible to read the damn thing... haha.
4. In the conrtols, it says press F2 for external view, F4 for fly-by view, etc. These do not work. How come?

About your question on the gunsight: In many German planes the gunsight was off center to the right. There is nothing to be fixed, this is an accurate representation of the German cockpit. It was off center so it would would not be in the way on landing, taxiing etc. To look through the gunsight it was enough for the pilot to close his left eye (this is what shfit+F1 simulates). Why this works has to do with the mechanics of the gunsight and with optics, and that is another explanation. But the Bf109 cockpits in IL2 1946 are 100% correct.

[Houndstone Hawk]

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx

I think I'm gonna use 1946 as more of a screw around type of game, and BoP as my mroe serious game. I like the action in BoP, it's a lot more than 1946, I just wish there was a no respawn mode....

LOL. Come to think of it, I think I'll probably regard my GT 5 Prologue & FORZA 3 as a bit of a 'screw around' & keep my Mario Karts going as the serious alternative.

[caphead]

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk

LOL. Come to think of it, I think I'll probably regard my GT 5 Prologue & FORZA 3 as a bit of a 'screw around' & keep my Mario Karts going as the serious alternative.

I looked at that too and thought the same, but I figured ehh, I will let it go...

[Houndstone Hawk]

Originally Posted by caphead

I looked at that too and thought the same, but I figured ehh, I will let it go...

Sigh, Yep! Fair play to him I guess. He's more than entitled to his own opinion.

Find it a mighty baffling statement though:

1946
Flutter effects, realistic engine management, fuel mix, stress effects & damage, realistic t/o & landings, realistic gunnery effects, limited ammo & fuel, gun harmonization, etc etc ... all optional.
Mission editor, allowing you to quickly & easily set up a mission of your choosing, dropping in any plane, vehicle, building, object that you see fit; Quick mission builder set up aswell as superb online play ... all optional.
Weather effects & time of day.
Fully interactive set of radio commands inc. wingmen orders aswell as comms to & from the tower & even the choice to switch over to enemy frequency.
Choice to fly sorties in real time or just skip to the next waypoint or action
Every flyable aircraft with interior cockpit inc. every station within a bomber.
Dynamic campaigns aswell as thousands of downloadable content such as new campaigns, missions, aircraft, again ... all optional
Tons of camera views & angles aswell as the option to view back your entire mission via the track recorder, from any angle or any aircraft in the theatre at the time & even the ability to drop in a simple static camera at pre-mission at any point on the map of your choosing.

BoP
Umm.. hang on, gotta be something, oh yeah, limited ammo & fuel ... optional.
Weather effects & time of day...optional.

Strange to call that as the "more serious game!"

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk

Sigh, Yep! Fair play to him I guess. He's more than entitled to his own opinion.

Find it a mighty baffling statement though:

(more of the same 1946-selling)

Strange to call that as the "more serious game!"

He's not saying BoP is a more serious game, he says he's using 1946 as his screw-around game, and BoP as his more serious game.
Just like you can use Forza as your screw-around game (bumping into others more than actually racing) and Mario-kart as your more serious game (actually racing, however arcade it may be).

[PantherAttack2]

As I've probably pointed out before...

In all honesty, despite some major issues found in the game (which I have gotten over pretty fast), I find BoP to be much more fun than 1946. 1946 is more challenging (realistic), but that doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy playing it.

What would I play if I wanted a realistic aerial combat sim set in ww2?
-IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946

What would I play if I wanted to just shoot down a few Bf-109's and enjoy myself?
-IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey