My FW190 rant

[irrelevant]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

I unlocked my 1st FW190 tonight, the 190F. Took it into a training session with a whole load of veteren IL4's at 7500m. The ai flew the IL4 bombers like fighters and totaly outperformed me. I then lost some altitude to try to pick up some speed which didn't work. I tried to climb back up to the circling bombers at around 22,000ft but couldn't even reach them, my FW190F would lose a stupid amount of speed with the smallest degree of climb and then stall. I had to quit the mission very disapointed, Ive been playing CTA and Strike games with the Ju87D for weeks to unlock this plane and it sucks hard. It's broken for sure, worse than the P51D.

I finally unlocked the F8 after suffering for a week or two with the JU87D. I played one sim match of CTA and promptly had my pilot's wings handed to me.

[edal86]

ok, sorry today I had to work so I could not play (10/31/09) however, Im available all day today (11/01/09) so just message me so that we can schedule a match.

I will use fw 190 D and you can use any bf 109 model, I will try my best against bf 109 E, F4, G10 and G2, but against bf 109 G6 and K4 I am very confident that fw 190 is better fighter in BOP game.

[kozzm0]

I could be wrong but isn't the 190's main strength its roll and its rotary engine? As compared to planes like 109 and p51.

I haven't unlocked any but in practice with limited ammo against bombers, I get better results with the 190d9 than most other planes, mainly because it's fast enough to weave up and down without falling back into the gunner's cone. And the roll rate makes it easy to switch direction fast to keep the separation to a minimum. I had to reduce aileron sensitivity quite a bit cause the roll reacted so quick.

p51 wasn't supposed to be a great dogfighter, I hope they don't fix it too much.

[mattd27]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

I could be wrong but isn't the 190's main strength its roll and its rotary engine? As compared to planes like 109 and p51.

I haven't unlocked any but in practice with limited ammo against bombers, I get better results with the 190d9 than most other planes, mainly because it's fast enough to weave up and down without falling back into the gunner's cone. And the roll rate makes it easy to switch direction fast to keep the separation to a minimum. I had to reduce aileron sensitivity quite a bit cause the roll reacted so quick.

p51 wasn't supposed to be a great dogfighter, I hope they don't fix it too much.

It couldn't turn like a spit, but it certainly didn't perform like it currently does in game. The P-51 shot down many 190's back in WWII (and visa-versa ) but I can't see it getting many kills in BoP. And with the ridiculous pricetag on the P-47, I have no american dogfighters to play with!

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by mattd27

It couldn't turn like a spit, but it certainly didn't perform like it currently does in game. The P-51 shot down many 190's back in WWII (and visa-versa ) but I can't see it getting many kills in BoP. And with the ridiculous pricetag on the P-47, I have no american dogfighters to play with!

Don't feel sorry about not having the P-47 to dogfight with... you'd be kind of disappointed.

[mattd27]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

Don't feel sorry about not having the P-47 to dogfight with... you'd be kind of disappointed.

Why has that been botched too? I mean I know it's a heavier plane, but I assuming it could still get the job done ( a la the IL-2). Real P-47's have had good success in dogfights have they not?

[MorgothNL]

Originally Posted by mattd27

Why has that been botched too? I mean I know it's a heavier plane, but I assuming it could still get the job done ( a la the IL-2). Real P-47's have had good success in dogfights have they not?

it has 0% capabilitys to dogfight. really.. it is nice in CTA and strike, but in dogfight, you will lose for sure even against an enemy 3x as bad as you

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by mattd27

Why has that been botched too? I mean I know it's a heavier plane, but I assuming it could still get the job done ( a la the IL-2). Real P-47's have had good success in dogfights have they not?

Probably the same problem as the P-51, not sure if the P-47 had the same huge fuel tanks though. I guess if you can get kills with the IL-2 (note: not IL-2M ) you can get kills with the P-47 as well. You'll just have to avoid turning. The good thing about the P-47 is that it has pretty good guns, and very nice armor.

[Doktorwzzerd]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

Don't feel sorry about not having the P-47 to dogfight with... you'd be kind of disappointed.

And the ultimate irony is that the P-47 was designed by Russians!

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by Doktorwzzerd

And the ultimate irony is that the P-47 was designed by Russians!

That's only ironic if you're one of those people who believe Gaijin's anti-american and plans to detonate a nuke in the US.