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Old 10-26-2009, 03:21 PM
Anton Yudintsev Anton Yudintsev is offline
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I've been a long-time lurker on these boards, and like the rest of us, have suffered silenty and tried to like this game -- mostly on account of my love of WWII aviation and associated emotional investment. I have to say something now ...

While I appreciate Anton's much needed update, I am very offended and put-off by his tone. I want to know if anybody else feels similarly.
Sorry for that.

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"Stop blame us, that's unfair - we are the ones, who suffered most, because we are spending our own money to make community happy, and not only getting a dime from that, but also recieving negative feedback."

So, we are supposed to feel sorry for you and your team when it was your decision to release a game that shouldn't have even escaped Q/A?
I don't agree that the game shouldn't have even escaped QA.
The game has passed QA. It has been tested for half a year. It has passed MS final approval from first attempt, if it tells you a thing.

Update is mostly update, than patch.
It is primarily adding a lot to the game, not fixing bugs.
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I'm not talking about the performance tweaks to match aircraft performance to historical reality; I'm talking about the game-breaking deadzone issues that make flying with a stick an exercise in frustration and masochism.
On X360 - it is Microsoft limitation. We can't adjust deadzones at all.
On PS3 - we've made it similair, to provide similair experience for all users.
It could be wrong decision, but it is reasonable.
We never told anyone, that deadzones will be tweakable on PS3 - so no false promises.
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Save the tears about your damn money ... and all the "negative feedback" you've gotten. You deserve it
OK, we deserve it.
Sorry for trying to make game better after release - that's surely only our fault.
But we are going to continue this behaviour. Sorry again.

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Sorry to vent, but that "our own money" crap-- combined with the fact that we got DLC (which I bought) before the game-fixing update -- set me off.
We are NOT releasing DLC or update.
We are making it.
And, we are making update on our own money for a good reason - we want to support community, to maintain their loyalty. So it is not you would owe us something, if it would be released.
But publisher is not releasing it - which makes making update useless waste of money, which upsets me.

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Old 10-26-2009, 03:30 PM
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But publisher is not releasing it - which makes making update useless waste of money, which upsets me.
So its not even at MS or Sony yet? Its still in publishers hands?
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:36 PM
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I think some are to hard on the devs. They are not exactly a large operation. I think they are doing their best under the circumstances.

I am very disapointed with the terrible performance of the 190. Also with the UFO performance of the LA-7....but this is still the best flight game on the 360.

I am very tired of losing kills, but I have a feeling that issue will be resolved soon.

Anton, I think you need a better publisher.

Still a great game, and hey, nothing is perfect.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:40 PM
Anton Yudintsev Anton Yudintsev is offline
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So its not even at MS or Sony yet? Its still in publishers hands?
Don't know - for now.
But it was in publisher hands for at least 10 previous days.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:43 PM
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your publisher is screwing you over anton, dont stand for it. Your the one who loses out here (and us).

Threaten them.

I know a guy who knows a guy who know a girl who knows a guy who knows a chick with a dick who slept with a guy who has kids with this girl who's brothers mate knows a guy who's uncle is in M15 and trained james bond with gadgets and stuff...


want me to get him to have a word?

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Old 10-26-2009, 04:16 PM
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hi,

There is somthing I still don't understand....

"official 1C Company forum" (If I read clairly lol) should be THE place to complaine about "publishing" problems.

So the question is : Why 1C don't answer on their own forum? And why the devs have to be in front line for somthing they can't solve ?

Ps: I also would like to know if the Force feedback sticks will be support? It so nice to "feel the plane" in your hand

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Old 10-26-2009, 04:23 PM
Anton Yudintsev Anton Yudintsev is offline
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Ps: [Anton] said : "We never told anyone, that deadzones will be tweakable on PS3 - so no false promises."
You told everyone (http://forum.yuplay.com/index.php?showtopic=13) :
You kidding me or what?
The point was - we never told that PRIOR release.
So it is not _fixing_, it is adding something (which makes sense with peripherial support).

So how the hell adding peripherial support and customizable controls - becomes our fault like 'the should not be out of QA'?
You know, it annoys me - anytime when you are adding something there will be someone, who will tell that it was clear for everyone from the beginning of times that it should be in the game, so it is developer's obligation to fix it at last.
I - personally - know no other games with PC-peripherial support or even deadzone tweaking.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:29 PM
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You kidding me or what?
The point was - we never told that PRIOR release.
So it is not _fixing_, it is adding something (which makes sense with peripherial support).

So how the hell adding peripherial support and customizable controls - becomes our fault like 'the should not be out of QA'?
You know, it annoys me - anytime when you are adding something there will be someone, who will tell that it was clear for everyone from the beginning of times that it should be in the game, so it is developer's obligation to fix it at last.
I - personally - know no other games with PC-peripherial support or even deadzone tweaking.
Now I see why you dont come on here much. Its like your a whitness at a murder trial.

Thanks for coming on here at all!

Lighten up people, they are doing their best. Jeeze.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:30 PM
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good to hear this anton , thanks for the info

Are there any final changes in the update that we dont know about yet?
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:31 PM
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Anton chill dude we now know the true situation and ppl like him will always find something to gripe about

i apologise for starting a public whipping of you and your crew

so ignore anymore bashing post and go get a beer or vodka and take it easy for a bit

but can you answer me 1 question WHO did you send the update too ??
1c 505 games or gajiin ???
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