The show "Dogfights" a great show, but a bit biased?

[FOZ_1983]

Dont wish to rain on your parade pal, but i didnt make the English language at all, it was my ancestors many centuries ago. Thank them not me but thankyou for the compliment, i appreciate it. Now......

insulting americans?

ok who fed the troll?

someone going to own up?


I want to answer you, yet at the same time i dont want to lower myself to your level.

[mattmanB182]

I dont think he is insulting Americans. I dont feel insulted. He just has a different point of view.

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by mattmanB182

I dont think he is insulting Americans. I dont feel insulted. He just has a different point of view.

I have just clearly pointed out that we (UK) have a piss poor fleet of aircraft, LOST to the yanks in a war, dont arm our troops well, RAN from the germans, YET you say im insulting americans?

Ok fool.


Be gone,


the power of christ compels you, THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!!




Chillax, take a chill pill


(mattman this isnt aimed at you, its for the other guy)

[mattmanB182]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

I have just clearly pointed out that we (UK) have a piss poor fleet of aircraft, LOST to the yanks in a war, dont arm our troops well, RAN from the germans, YET you say im insulting americans?

Ok fool.


Be gone,


the power of christ compels you, THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!!




Chillax, take a chill pill




(mattman this isnt aimed at you, its for the other guy)

Dude I agree with you. You really said nothing wrong. What a goof that other dude is. Not worth wasting anymore time even posting about. I thought this thread was about a TV show.

[FOZ_1983]

yeah it is about the show (a good one at that), we just got side tracked into why it doesnt really show the fight from the "other side" so to speak?

hmmm.

[Robotic Pope]

Dogfights is nothing like as biased as a different show though, where a American Major dude reenacts battles from the back seat of a yellow WWII trainer aircraft. Can't remember the name of the programme.

[mattmanB182]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

Dogfights is nothing like as biased as a different show though, where a American Major dude reenacts battles from the back seat of a yellow WWII trainer aircraft. Can't remember the name of the programme.

I think its called "Great Planes". And I dont watch it anymore just because of that fact. I have not heard him say a single time...anything bad about an American plane.

I mean come on...this is supposed to be an educational show.

[phlux]

Originally Posted by mattmanB182

I think its called "Great Planes". And I dont watch it anymore just because of that fact. I have not heard him say a single time...anything bad about an American plane.

I mean come on...this is supposed to be an educational show.

It's the same host as "Great Planes", but it was called "Showdown Aircombat" and yeah it was pretty silly. The host is Maj. Paul "Max" Moga" who is the lead pilot for the F-22 Raptor Demo Team. It was basically a little bit of history sprinkled in amongst the "unlike in MY Raptor when this or that happens". The guy has become somewhat of a celebrity here, seems to me he should be worried about more important things but that's just me.

BTW, good games with ya last night mattman!

[PantherAttack2]

The show Wings of the Luftwaffe is a great show featuring only German aircraft, and it correctly states good and bad features on planes and talks about wins/losses. I don't know who the producers of the show are but it is aired in America.

[Danfried]

I enjoyed several episodes, but I did find some of the episodes to have an almost nauseatingly gung-ho, pro-American bias, in particular the Vietnam episodes.

If you're going to understand a particular battle, you really need to consult sources from both sides. That's one of the great things about the Battle of Britain -- we know about Goering's decisions hobbling his fighter pilots and affecting their tactics, and why for example German fighters were forced to stick closely to bombers instead of free-ranging.

We also know that both sides wildly over-claimed the number of enemy planes they shot down. You probably can't trust in any war what one side claims without verifying it with the other side -- not necessarily because of dishonesty, but because of the fog of war.