russian anti tank dogs!!!!!

[mattmanB182]

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

Still better than human suicide bombers.

Just like medicine advances made through experiments on animals is preferrable to those done on humans.

In life, you are many times forced to pick the lesser of two evils.

Well I think they got what they deserved when the dogs went after their own tanks. Hopefully it did some true damage to them.

The cowards should have strapped bombs to themselves and went under the German tanks, since they were so desperate to blow them up.

Well God/Karma taught them a lesson anyway when it backfired.

[Araqiel]

Originally Posted by mattmanB182

The cowards should have strapped bombs to themselves and went under the German tanks, since they were so desperate to blow them up.

You should check out some of the Japanese anti-tank weapons... >_>

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by mattmanB182 The cowards should have strapped bombs to themselves and went under the German tanks, since they were so desperate to blow them up.

Originally Posted by Araqiel

You should check out some of the Japanese anti-tank weapons... >_>

lol cowards... you wanna' run at a tank? douche bag.


and I'd love to see what your leading statement about Japanese AT methods are if you have any more information or pictures. In the words of G.I. Joe... knowing is half the battle!

Oh and on the animal front... they also have no symbolic memory, and therefore are not capable of attributing methods or logical reasoning towards actions, they very much live in the moment and do not ascribe any form of judgement to and action or event.

[Araqiel]

Originally Posted by House MD 221B

[IMG]Originally Posted by mattmanB182 The cowards should have strapped bombs to themselves and went under the German tanks, since they were so desperate to blow them up.[/IMG]



lol cowards... you wanna' run at a tank? douche bag.


and I'd love to see what your leading statement about Japanese AT methods are if you have any more information or pictures. In the words of G.I. Joe... knowing is half the battle!

To start with the most basic they used backpacks loaded with explosives, functionally similar to satchel charges except they were worn on the back of an infantryman who would conceal himself until the tank was in range, and then dive under it, detonating the charge by pulling a cord. They would also dig foxholes in the middle of the road, mostly during the Burmese campaign, where troops would hide with explosives which they would detonate when a tank passed over them. These men were not issued sidearms, and there are reports of them being overrun by Allied forces and standing to die rather than use the explosives to defend themselves - presumably because they had been instructed that these explosives were only to be used for the vital effort of destroying enemy armour. Type 93 anti-tank mines were also mounted on poles and thrust under the track of an oncoming tank by hand; bad for the tank, and the guy on the other end of the stick.

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by Araqiel

To start with the most basic they used backpacks loaded with explosives, functionally similar to satchel charges except they were worn on the back of an infantryman who would conceal himself until the tank was in range, and then dive under it, detonating the charge by pulling a cord. They would also dig foxholes in the middle of the road, mostly during the Burmese campaign, where troops would hide with explosives which they would detonate when a tank passed over them. These men were not issued sidearms, and there are reports of them being overrun by Allied forces and standing to die rather than use the explosives to defend themselves - presumably because they had been instructed that these explosives were only to be used for the vital effort of destroying enemy armour. Type 93 anti-tank mines were also mounted on poles and thrust under the track of an oncoming tank by hand; bad for the tank, and the guy on the other end of the stick.

Christ, desperate times, desperate measures. The psychological issues behind it must be mind blowing. knowing your sole purpose is to sit in a hole, wait for a tank, and die. job done. mission complete. just crazy.

They could have used timed charges surely? or fused charges, or did they not have the availability? I know some armies have used prisoners for these purposes in the past. Was that the case here or were they regular conscripted citizens?

[Reddisback]

Useing animals to fight in a war is the lowest form a fighting! it has to be.
I know that the Russian send Lyka ( pronouncion???) to space to see if Humans could life there? i know that the American Goverment (who else?) trained Dolphins to find Bombs.
I know that soldiers will do hearbreaknig things to each other, and sometime even had to do to Animals. but, as my Grandfather pointed out real seriously, Killing animals is Wrong and that's a crime. He once had to shoot a Horse with his Side arm to kill a Horse because the Horse was bleeding to dead and was litteratly crying! ---- thank God we have orginizations such as the HSPC (animal PLanet) who protect animals from the worse kind of sittuations.

Killing each other is one thing, but animals? uh-uh, that's a No,no.

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by Reddisback

Useing animals to fight in a war is the lowest form a fighting! it has to be.
I know that the Russian send Lyka ( pronouncion???) to space to see if Humans could life there? i know that the American Goverment (who else?) trained Dolphins to find Bombs.
I know that soldiers will do hearbreaknig things to each other, and sometime even had to do to Animals. but, as my Grandfather pointed out real seriously, Killing animals is Wrong and that's a crime. He once had to shoot a Horse with his Side arm to kill a Horse because the Horse was bleeding to dead and was litteratly crying! ---- thank God we have orginizations such as the HSPC (animal PLanet) who protect animals from the worse kind of sittuations.

Killing each other is one thing, but animals? uh-uh, that's a No,no.

To me, all the effort to improve life for animals is disturbing in the face of human suffering.

We can get organized enough to have cats and dogs neutured so that they don't overpopulate and suffer. Yet humans are the ones who need saving. They need birth control. Our population growth is out of control.

In countries where the geography won't support the population already there, the Pope likes to travel there and teach them how birth control is evil. So babies are made, AIDS spreads, and everyone suffers. The Pope is somehow a decent person for encouraging this stupidty and suffering.

And we in America send TONS of food aid to countries like these - which just encourages them to have a population that can't be supported.

But be damned, if you even think about not neutering your dogs and cats or if you leave out food scraps for feral animals - you are a horrible person.

We can make the hard choices that have to be made for animal welfare, but we don't have the balls to do the same for ourselves.

[dazz1971]

fLIPPIN HECK!!! im so glad im not a japanese solider during the war


but then again you have to look at there beliefs...
To die in battle serving your emperor was the most honourable death there was.
This stems way back to the ancient japan, look at the samurai if he lost his honor the only way to save there dignity was by seppuku..
the only way the samurai could die more honourable was to die in battle by a sword !!

so id guess that the japanese soliders didnt quite see it as suicide but more of an honor