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Old 09-29-2009, 02:21 AM
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You cant be biased if someone's biased. Your originial statements were irrelivent to the original topic. Your lack logic proves my point still. Your answer for everthing is Russia, Russia, Russia. The fact that I acknowledge other planes, including some russian one's, as some of the greatist planes of all time makes me completly not biased. Just accept the fact that you're biased towards russian aircraft and move on. Come up with different material. End.
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:34 AM
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You cant be biased if someone's biased. Your originial statements were irrelivent to the original topic. Your lack logic proves my point still. Your answer for everthing is Russia, Russia, Russia. The fact that I acknowledge other planes, including some russian one's, as some of the greatist planes of all time makes me completly not biased. Just accept the fact that you're biased towards russian aircraft and move on. Come up with different material. End.
You can completely be biased against someone who is "biased". But I am not because I acknowledge other planes. When I speak with David, I talk about Spitfires and such. But I know a lot on Soviet Planes, there is nothing wrong with that is there? So I know more on Soviet planes, and enjoy them more. I think you know little of Soviet planes, and don't understand them. There is nothing wrong with me talking about them, if I'm educating people on them? Which I try to do. I don't go around bashing others planes, if I do, it is just for fun and jokes. And they know that.

I think your just an ignorant little boy, and don't understand much of planes? If you want, I could tell you some things. Maybe you've been getting your ass kicked by a Yak or La? Maybe even a I-16 or I-153, and don't know how to fly them. I can help you with this. But I'm not sure I would by the way your acting.
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:47 AM
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I just want to add, that not only are you going against me. But those on here, who are also "biased" with other planes. Just accept the fact, that in your eyes I am biased with Soviet planes, but to everyone else (I hope) I educate them and teach them about the Soviet planes.
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:59 AM
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I just want to add, that not only are you going against me. But those on here, who are also "biased" with other planes. Just accept the fact, that in your eyes I am biased with Soviet planes, but to everyone else (I hope) I educate them and teach them about the Soviet planes.
Just gonna post to that. You actually did open my eyes to the Yak 3 (I saw posts about how you love it, balh blah blah) and now it's all I ever used, when I probably wouldn't have touched it before
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Old 09-29-2009, 03:13 AM
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From time spent in the game the La's and Yak's are balanced from my point of veiw. These I-16's and I-153's aren't balanced at all compared to what planes need to be balanced in arcade mode, as stated in my original statements.

And to be honest I'm not that interested in WW2 Russian aircraft accept for the La's. I think some of them are mean bad ass looking aircraft that can get distingwishable kill ratio's. Others look like alot of the other stuff russian's built "like crap", but the russian have never really focused on a peice of weaponries "looks", they want it for the ease of mass production, ease of maitnance, and to fuction to what it was desiegned for. But you know thats a compliment that they would gladly take.

The fact that you so quickly show a creditable peice of historical fact is good for you but is irrelevent to the discussion about arcade mode planes and the balance between them.
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Old 09-29-2009, 03:18 AM
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From time spent in the game the La's and Yak's are balanced from my point of veiw. These I-16's and I-153's aren't balanced at all compared to what planes need to be balanced in arcade mode, as stated in my original statements.

And to be honest I'm not that interested in WW2 Russian aircraft accept for the La's. I think some of them are mean bad ass looking aircraft that can get distingwishable kill ratio's. Others look like alot of the other stuff russian's built "like crap", but the russian have never really focused on a peice of weaponries "looks", they want it for the ease of mass production, ease of maitnance, and to fuction to what it was desiegned for. But you know thats a compliment that they would gladly take.

The fact that you so quickly show a creditable peice of historical fact is good for you but is irrelevent to the discussion about arcade mode planes and the balance between them.
All Russian products are mass produced. Just look at the MiG-15 and later Russian jets. They're simple, easy to make, and handle nicely. They just do the opposite of what the US and UK does; which is make complicated and overly complicated machines. Not all are complicated, but many are. Russians just like to keep it simple.
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Old 09-29-2009, 03:37 AM
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I have no quarrel with russian jets, russian jets are to easy to research and find statistics for on the net.
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Old 09-29-2009, 03:42 AM
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I have no quarrel with russian jets, russian jets are to easy to research and find statistics for on the net.
So what's your problem with Russian WW2 fighters? The Russians did the same thing they did in WW2, but with their jets.
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Old 09-29-2009, 03:43 AM
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FYI russia cant afford to make things complicated either. Their export versions of the mig-21, su's have tons way better systems built and the reason why they can't use themeselves is because again, they simply can't afford them themselves.
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Old 09-29-2009, 03:47 AM
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FYI russia cant afford to make things complicated either. Their export versions of the mig-21, su's have tons way better systems built and the reason why they can't use themeselves is because again, they simply can't afford them themselves.
It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of simplicity. Understand, not everything has to be complicated like the US fighters. Take the F-22 Raptor. That is a seriously complicated machine. And take the Su-37, not so complicated.

Take the F4 Phantom as another example, complicated. The MiG-17,19, and 21. Not nearly as complicated. Also having a complicated machine adds weight, and you want your jet or prop plane as fast and maneuverable as you can. You get better performance as well.
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