Engine Restart

fritzwendel · #1 09-25-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by beaker126

Anybody know if this is required in this game?

Yes, at least for the I-16 Polikarpov. That plane was notorious for negative G stall characteristics, and happens regularly on Realistic/sim in the game.

Like it was mentioned, roll and pull up on the stick; stick down during level flight is just asking for trouble.

Voyager · #2 09-25-2009, 06:34 PM

It was an issue that the BoB period Spits had, but should be fixed/mitigated by the 1941 time frame.

The reason to do the negative G manuvers instead of roll is because Spitfires have roll issues at high speeds, especially the early models with fabric ailerons. Metal aileron skins, and clipped wings help it tremendously, but it was never a great high speed roller. Even with high roll planes, like the 190, with is somethign like 180 degrees/ second roll rate, if someone has just dropped away from you at 200kph, and you take a second to roll over to chase them, you've just given them 60m of distance. That's not trivial.

Ancient Seraph · #3 09-25-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Voyager

It was an issue that the BoB period Spits had, but should be fixed/mitigated by the 1941 time frame.

The reason to do the negative G manuvers instead of roll is because Spitfires have roll issues at high speeds, especially the early models with fabric ailerons. Metal aileron skins, and clipped wings help it tremendously, but it was never a great high speed roller. Even with high roll planes, like the 190, with is somethign like 180 degrees/ second roll rate, if someone has just dropped away from you at 200kph, and you take a second to roll over to chase them, you've just given them 60m of distance. That's not trivial.

Haven't seen a lot of people push nose-down suddenly yet. And, if the red-outs will be as in 1946, there's not going to be a lot of people that will continue doing it. Red-outs would occur almost immediately after pushing nose down a bit violently.

Wissam24 · #4 09-25-2009, 08:06 PM

I just tried to restart an I-16, diving from 30,000 ft and it didn;t restart...

tango2delta · #5 09-25-2009, 08:18 PM

O.K. just did it again, this time the engine restarted and the prop freeze-up but the engine keeps running. This was on BOB single missions in simulation limited F/A where you give top cover for a Sqn of hurricanes, the radiater must get hit and engine overheats and stops. It may be a glich.

Soviet Ace · #6 09-25-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tango2delta

O.K. just did it again, this time the engine restarted and the prop froozup but the engine keeps running. This was on BOB single missions in simulation limited F/A where you give top cover for a Sqn of hurricanes, the radiater must get hit and engine overheats and stops. It may be a glich.

Do you have any way of making a short video, and showing us how to do it? Maybe your doing something we're not? Because I did what you said, and like Wissam, my props just stopped.

tango2delta · #7 09-25-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Do you have any way of making a short video, and showing us how to do it? Maybe your doing something we're not? Because I did what you said, and like Wissam, my props just stopped.

No way, i wish i could. That is why we need replay Ed.

All i forget to say i am useing the ace edge flight stick, but i do not know if that matters about restarting, and also in simulation i have to throttle back to 0% when landing and then throttle to about 10 or 15% when rolling down runway about 25mph and then 0% to brake without fliping. It works every time.

danscirocco · #8 01-08-2010, 02:21 PM

great!!! doing russian campaign and the engine kept cutting out thought it was a bug doooh!!!! so kept restarting the game, now i know!!!

Also OFF TOPIC but i play realistic, how do you loop i try in the planes but as soon as i pull back i just stall and nose drops?!

Please help
Thanks in advance

InfiniteStates · #9 01-08-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by danscirocco

Also OFF TOPIC but i play realistic, how do you loop i try in the planes but as soon as i pull back i just stall and nose drops?!

Please help
Thanks in advance

Pull back more gently or decrease elevator sensitivity

danscirocco · #10 01-08-2010, 03:27 PM

yo cheers infinite once again for helping me most appreciated buddy.
one thing i would ask, if i changed the sensitive settings (im using pad i know dont laugh lol) would the other planes be out of shape, what would u suggest changing on the whole? I must admit i find the controls sometimes twitchy, but i dont want to upset the characteristics of the game, and also thought it was the nature of the planes of that ere
Dan