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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

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Old 09-22-2009, 07:54 PM
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everyone is right that arcade is definitely easier that the other modes, but that doesn't mean that every plane flies exactly the same. each one still has its own handling characteristics which you must learn to take advantage of if you want to be successful.

i played on arcade because i was new to flight-sim games, and i still play arcade online because it's hard enough to find a strike game as is, and people either get disconnected OR quit the game IF YOUR BEATING THEM
Thats not strictly true, arcade favours fast turning planes only.

For example if I chose the ME163C its speed factor is completely neutralised by the leveling system which allows a Hurricane or YAK to keep pace, but get into a turning battle and the Hurricane or YAK will win everytime, therefore with the exception of 3 or 4 planes arcade is virtually pointless for all the other planes in the game.

But the next mode up realistic is crap for two reasons

1. No bugger bar a hardcore few play it, so you can wait for hours for a decent game.

2. You so much as sneeze and your stalling!
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:07 PM
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Thats not strictly true, arcade favours fast turning planes only.

For example if I chose the ME163C its speed factor is completely neutralised by the leveling system which allows a Hurricane or YAK to keep pace, but get into a turning battle and the Hurricane or YAK will win everytime, therefore with the exception of 3 or 4 planes arcade is virtually pointless for all the other planes in the game.

But the next mode up realistic is crap for two reasons

1. No bugger bar a hardcore few play it, so you can wait for hours for a decent game.

2. You so much as sneeze and your stalling!
I don't know what Realistic your flying on, but the one I fly on from time to time, I have no problem with stalls. Just because the stall indicator comes on from time to time, doesn't mean your screwed right away. Just keep an eye on your speed, and make sure it doesn't go down below 120 or so, and you won't stall. You'll just be on the edge of stalling really?
But I prefer simulator, and that is a piece of work which I highly enjoy.
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:36 PM
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Really, they should change the setting options back to what the PC version had.

For example, you could turn on/off stalls, limited fuel/ammo, or overheat individiually on the PC. So all else still matters (turn rate, speed, climb rate) and you could use historical tactics and the game was fun for newbies.

That's how arcade games should be played - or least give the difficulty options like the PC game had - more people could enjoy it - make it so players know what settings are on or off before they join a game.

The PC setup worked fine and I don't see why much more of it wasn't carried over to consoles - again I guess it's the dumbing down for console sub-humans.
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:48 PM
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I really don't see why people are complaining about stalls and spins so much... I never have a problem stalling and I fly a variety of planes. And no, I don't fly on arcade.
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:08 PM
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I really don't see why people are complaining about stalls and spins so much... I never have a problem stalling and I fly a variety of planes. And no, I don't fly on arcade.
Don't tell me you never had one wingdrop. This would mean you only fly straight or a max bank angle of 30 degrees :S. Adjusting elevator sensitivity helps a great deal to counteract stalls etc. Because of that I have no stall problems anymore either. Without it however my wing drops every 2 secs in a Spit.
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:06 PM
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I really don't see why people are complaining about stalls and spins so much... I never have a problem stalling and I fly a variety of planes. And no, I don't fly on arcade.
try the P-51
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:24 PM
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Flying the P-51 is like trying to coax a squirrel to come feed from your hand. Any sudden movements and it's all over. For me it's a matter of thinking one step ahead so I don't need to jerk the stick so much.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:27 AM
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For me it's a matter of thinking one step ahead so I don't need to jerk the stick so much.
unfortunately I too went to an all-boys school
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:57 PM
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I really don't see why people are complaining about stalls and spins so much... I never have a problem stalling and I fly a variety of planes. And no, I don't fly on arcade.
Same here. Usually I'm flying my Yak-3!!! and I never go into a spin or stall? Maybe I just no the limitations or something, but really, as long as you keep your speed up, and don't start bleeding off speed in a turn. You'll do just fine.

Just don't pull the stick or thumb toggle ALL the way back, then those with the stall and spin problem, won't have it so much.
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