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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-16-2011, 10:21 AM
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The problem with the MTO is that the 1st Spitfire didn't arrive there till 1942, so the timeline argument is ok but it means you can't use a Spitfire over malta till a year after Barbarossa launched. There's a lot of overlap.

If you want it chronologically then MTO would be Itallians vs Hurricanes & Bi-planes from June '40 to January, when the LW start to get involved.

The LW would then effectivley pull out from April to December '41 to take part in the Battle of Crete/Balkans etc..

Park didn't arrive in Malta till 1942. The big RAF offensive sarted afer that and was over by November '42, at which point 330,000 Germans were encircled at Stalingrad.

Having said all that I'd like to see MTO next, but it's not because of historical accuracy it's just a preference.

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Old 05-16-2011, 10:33 AM
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I think it would make most sense to carry on with the ETO, using an extended version of the current map for 1941, and then bring in the Russian front at the appropriate point in the time-line. Jumping from BoB to Barbarossa is bullcrap.
Exactly what part of the ETO between Oct 40 to June 41 do you want that you can't do with what we have now?
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Old 05-16-2011, 11:10 AM
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+1 for the MTO, but then I just want to fly for the SAAF over North Africa
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Old 05-16-2011, 11:25 AM
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Exactly what part of the ETO between Oct 40 to June 41 do you want that you can't do with what we have now?
IF there would have been a smaller Extension-AdOn for the given map with planes , my choice would have been a "Dieppe 42" scenario.
At least the planeset around this scenario would have brought some interesting planes to the players:
Fw190A-2/-3, as Fighterbombers too
Bf109G-1
Do217E
Spitfire V & IX (Merlin 61)
Hurricane IIb&c Fighterbombers
Mustang I
Boston III
B-17F

as examples ...
with some new ships (as BoB is realy lacking in them) and perhaps some new engine features - it would have made a nice intermediate AdOn to sell before the next BIG one with a totaly new map. And i belive making a Map for this series is a lot of work.

but this will obviously not happen
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:13 PM
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Interesting. I second that.
btw, the Dieppe 42 scenario could be combined quite easily with Cerberus 42, the Channel dash to Germany by Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen from Brest naval base. Most of the interesting map is already available, and this major operation also included ferocious air combats in Feb 42...

These kind of scenarii (both Cerberus & Dieppe), also are an excellent opportunity to tweak the whole Channel theater map, while introducing new tactical situations later in the war.

This would :
- enable the BOB aficionados to play in a tweaked environment, thus directly supporting the debug phase on CoD map;
- enable the bored ones to get new stuff, although kept at a lower cost for the dev.

This is a typical quick-win opportunity they could tend to favor to solve CoD issues...
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:35 PM
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Maybe they should go for the Rhubarbs and circuses of '41. Same map (with duxford / 12 group added etc..)

It would give the chance to fight the BoB in reverse, with the RAF fighters tied to escorting bombers at the limit of thier range and the LW fighting a defensive battle, wouldn't need too many new aircraft, could be quite quick to produce.

Other scenarios that could use the same map with additions, Dieppe (as someone said), Preparation and aftermath of D-Day, The V1-V2 offensive

Hopefully in the future some third party will design plane sets/vehicle sets to use on existing maps.
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:19 PM
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IF there would have been a smaller Extension-AdOn for the given map with planes , my choice would have been a "Dieppe 42" scenario.
At least the planeset around this scenario would have brought some interesting planes to the players:
Fw190A-2/-3, as Fighterbombers too
Bf109G-1
Do217E
Spitfire V & IX (Merlin 61)
Hurricane IIb&c Fighterbombers
Mustang I
Boston III
B-17F

as examples ...
with some new ships (as BoB is realy lacking in them) and perhaps some new engine features - it would have made a nice intermediate AdOn to sell before the next BIG one with a totaly new map. And i belive making a Map for this series is a lot of work.

but this will obviously not happen
+1000000 "Rhubarb"," "Circus", "Rodeo" and "Ramrod" missions more and more deeply in occupied territories (1941-43 sceneries), how many missions to flight!

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Old 05-16-2011, 02:56 PM
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I don't have any inside information...

I suspect the Med is next, because we could have done the COD without Italian aircraft and most people would have been content.

Look at the Italian aircraft in the COD. As I recall,... the same Italian aircraft were flown in the Med.

It really doesn't matter anyway, just talk of course.
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:30 PM
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Oleg is gone, we know it, but he did say: "Med after BoB 100%"....yes, a lot of time ago.

However now we don't need neither Moscow nor Malta but only The Battle of Britain, if possible.
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:15 AM
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+1 for the MTO, but then I just want to fly for the SAAF over North Africa

Me too; 1st squadron

Doolittle raider: I agree with you +1
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