Warning: This game is on the edge. Support it or watch it die.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by BlitzPig_fox

I do custom finish work and in these many years I have yet to hear a client say " I suppose I can live with that". When you get it right the first time there is no need for repairs and Be Sure constructive criticism brings about perfection.

If you were the only person on the planet doing custom finish work I suspect your customers would learn to live with a lower quality product, and would be more willing to wait for repairs.

[BlitzPig_fox]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

If you were the only person on the planet doing custom finish work I suspect your customers would learn to live with a lower quality product, and would be more willing to wait for repairs.

But you see that is not the truth, specially when the stock leaves the mill @ $15 per lin ft. They pays for a service and expect to get their monies worth and Be Sure if they are not satisified I wasted my time there as work is mostly done thru referrals in certain circles.

If the dev's have thin skin mebbe they should be doin sumthin else ... writin reviews might pay their bills.

[BrassEm]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

DO NOT KID YOURSELF. THIS GAME IS ON THE EDGE.

You Idiot!

[mazex]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

Salute

If you haven't seen them already, the reviews in German gaming magazines, on Gamespot and PC Gamer have panned the game.

Maybe those reviews were deserved, but the fact is, if this game goes under, no one is going to suffer but us flight simmers.

All those posters on these boards who I see whining and complaining better understand something:

If this game goes under, you will have nothing to do but whine. No game, no development, NOTHING.

The only smart thing to do at this point is to support the developers, give them POSITIVE feedback on issues.

Don't harp on issues which have been mentioned a hundred times, there is no point.

Unless you WANT the game to fail.

I personally have bought a copy online, and will be buying another hard copy in the stores when it arrives.

DO NOT KID YOURSELF. THIS GAME IS ON THE EDGE.

+1!

[BadAim]

I couldn't be bothered to read this whole thread so I don't know if anyone made this point, but I'll make it any way;

I'm sure that most of the hardcore flight sim fans will be buying CloD no matter what (or already have), and those who think that WOP is a flight sim will buy CloD as soon as a few good reviews come out.

The vast legions of kiddie box players probably won't buy it anyway, so who cares.

Those who have already bought it and spend their time moaning about all the money they spent on this lousy game instead of working with the developers and the rest of the community to fix it have their own reward.

While I'd like to be able to get at the few things that are interesting in this forum without wading through all of the whining drivel, in the end what anyone else thinks of CloD doesn't effect how much I'm enjoying it.

Get on board or don't. It probably won't actually matter in the end, either way.

[thesean]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

Salute

If you haven't seen them already, the reviews in German gaming magazines, on Gamespot and PC Gamer have panned the game.

Maybe those reviews were deserved, but the fact is, if this game goes under, no one is going to suffer but us flight simmers.

All those posters on these boards who I see whining and complaining better understand something:

If this game goes under, you will have nothing to do but whine. No game, no development, NOTHING.

The only smart thing to do at this point is to support the developers, give them POSITIVE feedback on issues.

Don't harp on issues which have been mentioned a hundred times, there is no point.

Unless you WANT the game to fail.

I personally have bought a copy online, and will be buying another hard copy in the stores when it arrives.

DO NOT KID YOURSELF. THIS GAME IS ON THE EDGE.

Your right, they do deserve everything they get and the bad reviews. Some body (UBI/1C) has to learn something from this. I am fan of the IL series for ten years and I don't feel I owe them anything with this release, they have made a complete and utter balls of it. I still cant even buy a boxed copy of the game over a month after release (never mind all the problems im likely to have when I actually get to play it), no retailer even knows about it. So don't worry about bad reviews as no one can buy it anyway unless they go through steam.

It will be disappointing if this game fails, but hell, this is the best time ever for flight simmers (DCS series, Rise of Flight) so if it does go under I don't really care, there are a lot of other sims for me to play. And if it does go under they have none to blame but themselves. I'm sure 777 would be only too happy to step in and steal the WW2 sim market with a sequel to Rise Of Flight, and I would gladly support them.

Personally I don't think it will "go under" as IL has too much of an underground community to have that happen and if it does happen its beacuse 1C or UBI decide to pull support/funding. It wont be because of the flight simmers, bad reviews or forum complaints.

[ATAG_Doc]

I encourage everyone to purchase a second copy and "share the wealth" with a friend. Or a random person on the street. Just hand it to them and tell them it will change their lives.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

Salute

If you haven't seen them already, the reviews in German gaming magazines, on Gamespot and PC Gamer have panned the game.

Maybe those reviews were deserved, but the fact is, if this game goes under, no one is going to suffer but us flight simmers.

All those posters on these boards who I see whining and complaining better understand something:

If this game goes under, you will have nothing to do but whine. No game, no development, NOTHING.

The only smart thing to do at this point is to support the developers, give them POSITIVE feedback on issues.

Don't harp on issues which have been mentioned a hundred times, there is no point.

Unless you WANT the game to fail.

I personally have bought a copy online, and will be buying another hard copy in the stores when it arrives.

DO NOT KID YOURSELF. THIS GAME IS ON THE EDGE.

What a goofball.

Its upto the devs to take from this thread what they want. i believe they know were not stupid by now. and that we are all aware of the problems. this is not 1C's fault folks. when you read comments that ubsioft brought this to our software and killed it and theres nothing we can do about it. it should tell you who is at fault here. its honestly not 1C , as luthier has said today hes running around with his hair on fire. i feel for them at 1C i really do my heart goes out to them.

[PaulWF]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

Salute

If you haven't seen them already, the reviews in German gaming magazines, on Gamespot and PC Gamer have panned the game.

Maybe those reviews were deserved, but the fact is, if this game goes under, no one is going to suffer but us flight simmers.

All those posters on these boards who I see whining and complaining better understand something:

If this game goes under, you will have nothing to do but whine. No game, no development, NOTHING.

The only smart thing to do at this point is to support the developers, give them POSITIVE feedback on issues.

Don't harp on issues which have been mentioned a hundred times, there is no point.

Unless you WANT the game to fail.

I personally have bought a copy online, and will be buying another hard copy in the stores when it arrives.

DO NOT KID YOURSELF. THIS GAME IS ON THE EDGE.

what a complete load of bollocks.

no, we support what DESERVES support, not blindly. BLIND support does not help Us, and it definitely does not help the developer.

I am happy to laud the things that are good, but i will most definitely also apply equal attention to what is bad.

Creating a false cloud of positive PR is dishonest.