Friday October 12 - Release Candidate 2

[NLS61]

Originally Posted by Winger

Have you ever flown a 109? Well, then you know whats a bad visibility. Its everyones choice thou. I knew it was possible to dump the canopy in a 109 and have no increased drag post patch and i still didnt use it since i dont like exploiting. And sorry but thats exactly what it is. No matter wich side it does.

Winger

Yes i've flown that visibility is ok backwards forwards it is rubbish.
Open cockpits are not ceating they are simply there.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by NLS61

Yes i've flown that visibility is ok backwards forwards it is rubbish.
Open cockpits are not ceating they are simply there.

Cheating is opening the cockpit to hear approaching engines, which wasn't the case in RL.

[gonk]

got it to work... but it still feel like force rendering 2.... i.e. micro stutters the same way. Single card still better for me..
will test later today... very tired after night shift....

My problem..and probably other people.... I had to expand the exe location.....game location. F:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\launcher

Profile "IL-2 STURMOVIK: CLIFFS OF DOVER"
ShowOn GeForce
ProfileType Application
Executable "/Program Files/Steam/steamapps/common/il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover/launcher.exe"
Setting ID_0x00a06946 = 0x000240f5
Setting ID_0x1033cec1 = 0x00000001
Setting ID_0x1033cec2 = 0x00000002
Setting ID_0x1033dcd2 = 0x00000004
Setting ID_0x1033dcd3 = 0x00000004
Setting ID_0x1095def8 = 0x00000004
EndProfile

Then just don't touch anything... both cards are running ....sometime higher than 85% each , so got me where the stutter is coming from.
I hope this helps the others having a problem...

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Cheating is opening the cockpit to hear approaching engines, which wasn't the case in RL.

Which is ironic, because the OP's complaint wasn't that there was this bug at all, but rather than his window is smaller in the 109 so he can't hear so well

I don't know an RAF pilot who does this, nobody ever mentioned it from groups I know. I open it often on patrol for better vision, only in the Hurricane.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Which is ironic, because the OP's complaint wasn't that there was this bug at all, but rather than his window is smaller in the 109 so he can't hear so well

I don't know an RAF pilot who does this, nobody ever mentioned it from groups I know. I open it often on patrol for better vision, only in the Hurricane.

I see several pilots doing it online (open canopies are visible) and one honest guy admitted it openly (he is a nice guy and a very good pilot btw). I just flew several sorties in Atag in red planes and kept the canopy open to test this bug again. Well, it saved my life several times because the droning of 109 engines is clearly discernible before they reach firing range. It's again the only explanation to Spits and Hurries breaking when my 109 approached them from 6 low, the famous dead spot.
It's a sad bug and it must be corrected, as it is it ruins completely the pleasure for several 109 pilots who try the only tactics allowed by today's FMs, B&Z or sneaky 6 o'clock pursuit.

Other than that I'm happy that the Red planes FM bugs have been corrected, they are a good match now.

Cheers.

[NLS61]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Cheating is opening the cockpit to hear approaching engines, which wasn't the case in RL.

I can assure you that when you hear an enemy engine you are way to late with those 20 mm hamering.
I open the cockpit to look behined me wich I do every 20 sec.
In a 109 I can just look behined me as the designer has thought about that.
the mirror isntr much help but in a forward scan you naturaly also look in your mirror wich gives apartial backward scan.
If they would be ineffective the pilots would have sawed them off altogheter as they also obstruckt forward above view.
So cockpit stay open if you have any problems with that shoot me down

[klem]

Originally Posted by NLS61

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If they would be ineffective the pilots would have sawed them off altogheter as they also obstruckt forward above view.
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Actually it was the pilots that first fitted them. At first they used car mirrors. The manufacturers adopted the idea from them/their demands.

[Osprey]

Insuber, have you tested the 109 for hearing the Merlin engine at all? I am curious as to if this also occurs. btw, I am not defending this bug, I am defending the implication that RAF pilots are cheating because they open the canopy to hear, not see. To suggest that 'the only explanation' for avoiding you is hearing the 109 is poor form. Most of my late breaks come from a squadron buddy telling me to break, canopy open or not, or are you also saying that the guy you are trying to shoot is definitely flying alone too?

I suggest to all 109 pilots who are complaining about this that they should fly higher and faster, approach from the sun blah blah you're making mistakes, blah blah, improve your shooting, blah, it's the pilot not the plane........

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Insuber, have you tested the 109 for hearing the Merlin engine at all? I am curious as to if this also occurs. btw, I am not defending this bug, I am defending the implication that RAF pilots are cheating because they open the canopy to hear, not see. To suggest that 'the only explanation' for avoiding you is hearing the 109 is poor form. Most of my late breaks come from a squadron buddy telling me to break, canopy open or not, or are you also saying that the guy you are trying to shoot is definitely flying alone too?

I suggest to all 109 pilots who are complaining about this that they should fly higher and faster, approach from the sun blah blah you're making mistakes, blah blah, improve your shooting, blah, it's the pilot not the plane........

Osprey - I don't imply for sure that blue pilots are morally superior to red ones, or viceversa. I"m sure that you personally are a fair player, like the vast majority of Il2 players. I have no hidden agenda, I just find this bug very very annoying and so serious to change the game rules. As far as flying higher blah blah etc I see the sarcasm, but it won't help solving this bug.

As far as the 109, I can't hear a damned Merlin at 50 m with closed canopy ... luckily!

Cheers!

[Osprey]

Oh, about De Wilde. Command had terrible trouble convincing pilots that DeWilde was not more effective than other incendiaries. They proove this at the firing ranges but pilots were insistent and command caved in to demand to raise the supply. It was a placebo.