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Old 10-03-2012, 03:53 PM
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Raaid is raaaaid, take him or leave him. I've never seen him lose his temper, I've learnt a lot of useless info from reading his threads by trying to counter them. I don't see him as a problem.

What actually amazes me is how cruel people can be to what is essentially an easy target. But if bullying the special needs kids at school was your thing then carry on. The guy bought CloD so he's as much right as anyone to be here.

Personally I find the constant rehashing od the same old complaints over in the main forum more annoying than a completley harmless, if rather confusing Raaaid thread.
His English is worse than mine but apparently he has a degree in it, he claims to be an engineer but constantly tries to prove even the most basic things wrong, look at this thread its a perfect example.. He could not be more wrong and evidence has been shown that shows he is utterly incorrect but he refuses to even listen.. Therefore I believe he is having a laugh with some mates in another forum at your guys expense or he is incredibly arrogant!!?!!
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:11 PM
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so you still believe the 6 mm run are dead zone? if not the short run advantage is proved

youre so thick, proof it or shut up

and how do you dare to call me lier after having posted all subjects i passed in college, from latin to steam engines

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why dont you get raceroom an steam free game and prove me wrong by driving with 400º run when i admit i got the record only for going with 40º and beat some of my 3 records in that masive free game

then you can talk by now its me and not you whos doing the uber piloting
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:35 PM
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ill resume this thread:

i claim i feel cheating getting world records racing cause i use 40º run while everybody uses over 200º

i back this up by the f16 having 6mm run

an expert comes and says the 6 mm run of the f16 is DEAD ZONE

i call this bs

everybody gets on me insulting me calling me idiot pathetic moron troll, this stresses me and i start saying deliring things about borgs

i back it up with a graph of a joystick of an f16 replica which shows no death zone at all

peeople keep trolling with personal attacks in fact even when realizing i was right they wont admit it but winny whose reasonable and admits the short run advantage and explains its not used as me to the extreme in the racing world for safety reasons which i share now


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Old 10-03-2012, 05:03 PM
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so you still believe the 6 mm run are dead zone? if not the short run advantage is proved

youre so thick, proof it or shut up

and how do you dare to call me lier after having posted all subjects i passed in college, from latin to steam engines

edit:

why dont you get raceroom an steam free game and prove me wrong by driving with 400º run when i admit i got the record only for going with 40º and beat some of my 3 records in that masive free game

then you can talk by now its me and not you whos doing the uber piloting
Yes it might work on a racing game but its nothing like flying and especially nothing like dogfighting where precise aiming is key...

Take one obvious example, Airbus and Boeing.

Airbus use a sidestick and Boeing a conventional yoke.

Airbus uses a fly-by-wire system and a sidestick as the aircraft adheres to a strict flight envelope that is set within the flight limits of that particular aircraft. The pilot has limited control of the aircraft and in theory cannot endanger the crew and passengers by making the aircraft perform a maneuver that would otherwise lead to a stall or over loading and failure of the structure.

Boeing also a fly-by-wire system but they use a yoke. Now the reason that they use a centre stick is because unlike the Airbus aircraft even though they have a flight envelope the pilot IS in control of the aircraft and can make the aircraft perform maneuvers that could lead to a stall etc...

Which aircraft do most pilots prefer... Boeing obviously, they are in complete control if they need to not the flight computer.

Now obviously passengers jets and yokes can't be compared to centre sticks and side sticks in a fighter aircraft so case two, modern fighter jets...

Yes the current trend is sidesticks, but there is a very very simple reason for this. The design, modern military jets are designed to be EXTREMELY unstable and are kept in the sky by the computer not by the pilot, the modern pilots fly by the instruments in front of him and a centre stick is intrusive so that's one benefit of a sidestick.

So there you have it, nothing to do with how sensitivity or precision... the reason that modern jets use side stick is that in reality modern pilots do not have complete control over the aircraft the COMPUTER does.

Find me a military fighter aircraft that does not use fly-by-wire and has a side stick please.

@Winny, I hope you found that interesting
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:27 PM
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ill resume this thread:

i claim i feel cheating getting world records racing cause i use 40º run while everybody uses over 200º

i back this up by the f16 having 6mm run

an expert comes and says the 6 mm run of the f16 is DEAD ZONE

i call this bs

everybody gets on me insulting me calling me idiot pathetic moron troll, this stresses me and i start saying deliring things about borgs

i back it up with a graph of a joystick of an f16 replica which shows no death zone at all

peeople keep trolling with personal attacks in fact even when realizing i was right they wont admit it but winny whose reasonable and admits the short run advantage and explains its not used as me to the extreme in the racing world for safety reasons which i share now


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You see.....this is why people tell you to leave this place, why should everybody just accept and agree with everything you say just because you are a bit 'special' in the head? if you find it all too stressful and it makes you go into delerium then all the people advising you to leave for the good of your health are right.
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:32 PM
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Yes it might work on a racing game but its nothing like flying and especially nothing like dogfighting where precise aiming is key...

Take one obvious example, Airbus and Boeing.

Airbus use a sidestick and Boeing a conventional yoke.

Airbus uses a fly-by-wire system and a sidestick as the aircraft adheres to a strict flight envelope that is set within the flight limits of that particular aircraft. The pilot has limited control of the aircraft and in theory cannot endanger the crew and passengers by making the aircraft perform a maneuver that would otherwise lead to a stall or over loading and failure of the structure.

Boeing also a fly-by-wire system but they use a yoke. Now the reason that they use a centre stick is because unlike the Airbus aircraft even though they have a flight envelope the pilot IS in control of the aircraft and can make the aircraft perform maneuvers that could lead to a stall etc...

Which aircraft do most pilots prefer... Boeing obviously, they are in complete control if they need to not the flight computer.

Now obviously passengers jets and yokes can't be compared to centre sticks and side sticks in a fighter aircraft so case two, modern fighter jets...

Yes the current trend is sidesticks, but there is a very very simple reason for this. The design, modern military jets are designed to be EXTREMELY unstable and are kept in the sky by the computer not by the pilot, the modern pilots fly by the instruments in front of him and a centre stick is intrusive so that's one benefit of a sidestick.

So there you have it, nothing to do with how sensitivity or precision... the reason that modern jets use side stick is that in reality modern pilots do not have complete control over the aircraft the COMPUTER does.

Find me a military fighter aircraft that does not use fly-by-wire and has a side stick please.

@Winny, I hope you found that interesting
Thanks and apologies if the bullying special needs kids comment felt like it was aimed at you. It wasn't.
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:32 PM
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well there are two things for seinsitivity, should never had used that word

the shorter the run the higher the sensitibity( and the faster you can countersteer a stall in a plane or a spin in a car which is run dependant not sensitivity)

the stronger the centering force damping the lower the sensitivity

so its posible to have a short run whith all its advanatages witha very strong force damping which will lower the sensitivity as much as needed for formation ultraprecise flying

in fact the f16 stick design is much better than anything i tried in my g25 wheel, and i say that as quite an experten on virtual racing
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if you find it all too stressful and it makes you go into delerium then all the people advising you to leave for the good of your health are right.
anyone being called a moron pathetic idiot troll gets stressed, specially when talking the truth and revealing a secret for virtual racings

how about if the mods took me as reference to turn this place alike the ubizoo where people would talk of their things as old friends with a very nice atmosphere

if someone is ultra mean to me a totally harmless guy maybe he shouldnt deserve the right to be among a bunch of nice guys all over the world with an agaisnt the stream interest on pilloting and flying
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:40 PM
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well there are two things for seinsitivity, should never had used that word

the shorter the run the higher the sensitibity( and the faster you can countersteer a stall in a plane or a spin in a car which is run dependant not sensitivity)

the stronger the centering force damping the lower the sensitivity

so its posible to have a short run whith all its advanatages witha very strong force damping which will lower the sensitivity as much as needed for formation ultraprecise flying

in fact the f16 stick design is much better than anything i tried in my g25 wheel, and i say that as quite an experten on virtual racing
In other words you did not read or did not understand my post, fantastic what's point creating a discussion if you don't listen to others.

@winny, no problem
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:00 PM
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In other words you did not read or did not understand my post, fantastic what's point creating a discussion if you don't listen to others.

@winny, no problem
i understood it but youre not dismissing my point of the shorter run being better, youre just giving away your info on the subject but not taking into account my new info

this is the ot really theres no need to take it to the air world

my simple TRUE POINT:

i got several world records RACING in masive games by my using extremely short runs, had i used a normal run i would be two second slower

now people who race and maybe interested in my extreme setup should ask me about the force feedback setting i use

people who wish to troll will troll with mostly non related info
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