British FM killing the fun of the game for allied pilots.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Well, the Red FM's may be porked way beyond the pale, but let's look at the bright side of life: the negative g cutout on the Spits is fixed!!!!

And....possible bonus.....radiator air resistance may be modelled now. Just a rumour, mind you, no mention of it in the rather slim readme notes.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

And....possible bonus.....radiator air resistance may be modelled now. Just a rumour, mind you, no mention of it in the rather slim readme notes.

As it happens, I've also come across a yaw trim issue with canopy open at altitude. But it might've been me. Canopy open now causing drag? Could be.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

And....possible bonus.....radiator air resistance may be modelled now. Just a rumour, mind you, no mention of it in the rather slim readme notes.

It definitely was in 1.07, now in 1.08 it seems to be gone again

[Jatta Raso]

no only killing the fun, it completely killed the game for me. i'm not playing anymore recently. it's not just a matter of relative performance generally speaking, the worst is that the performance gap is most unfair when both red and blue have their E depleted and on deck, then the 109 can gain advantage over the Spit with ease, with just some silly small climbs, like that would have worked on RL (perhaps on WWI...)

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by Robo.

It definitely was in 1.07, now in 1.08 it seems to be gone again

JTDawg and I were trying it a little bit while flying Spitfire MK I (2-speed) last night (ATAG Server). I found closing the radiator by 50% increased the climb rate slightly = slight increase in IAS when level trim is applied. It was subtle, and we were testing this while we were shooting down 16.28 109's apiece, so we were slightly distracted.

OK, OK.......J/K everyone!!!!! (It was only 12 109's shot down apiece )

[5./JG27.Farber]

Robo,

I think what Doggles was talking about was that most reds blame the aircraft fro not being up to scratch and consider flying a 109 "easy".

I have been on the recieving end of comments like "you only shot me down because the flight models porked!". - when the guy didnt even see me comming

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Robo,

I think what Doggles was talking about was that most reds blame the aircraft fro not being up to scratch and consider flying a 109 "easy".

I have been on the recieving end of comments like "you only shot me down because the flight models porked!". - when the guy didnt even see me comming

Was that you, Farbs? LOL

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Robo,

I think what Doggles was talking about was that most reds blame the aircraft fro not being up to scratch and consider flying a 109 "easy".

I have been on the recieving end of comments like "you only shot me down because the flight models porked!". - when the guy didnt even see me comming

I know what you mean here, Farber. There are this kind of people who don't like losing and are always trying to find some excuse for their failure (virtual death that is lol). They're equally spread on both sides, too... and it's lame. Again, ignore.. It's not easy I know and very unfair. There is lots of red (and blue) pilots who would S! you and say something like gs.

But on the other hand, when I fly the 109 and get a kill, I never know if I am really better than the other guy or if it's only mine and his ride.

[Longywales]

Completely agree with the OP.

I fly a IIa all the time and in the latest beta patch its gone horrible! my max speed now is only 240MPH which is just way off real life stats..

Also, i keep cooking the engine which never used to happen at all! this is even with a fully open radiator!

maybe i could live with the heating issue, but when my plane cant even catch up a bunch of bombers is where i draw the line:

If anyone is interested here are the real life stats of the IIa:
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfire-II.html you will see that this game is way off performance wise.

Also those arguing about 109 vs spitfire, i found a good documentary on the 2:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ugBpAombpgs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/02WmH-pANZ0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

watch in the order i posted.

[Longywales]

Correction***

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugBpAombpgs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02WmH-pANZ0