Congratulations Jaguar!!!

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Outlaw, you're doing a game of semantics here, which is pretty much trolling..

Geez your whining about everyone being a troll is getting old.

Regardless, post some substance and respond to actual points made and the nitpicking won't be necessary.

SERIOUSLY, raaaid can argue better than you.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Ferrari was the inventor of the F1 gearbox, of carbon-ceramic brakes, F1-derived traction control, the e-diff.. and let's not even go in the field of aerodynamics..

So what, every major manufacturer has their list.

But that's not the point. Your continued blathering about Ferrari technology is such a wasted effort as my ONLY point regarding Ferraris...

You're correct if your definition of an, "engineering marvel", is a car that requires a $5k+ engine out service every 15k miles or 3 years.

That's it. Agree or disagree but posting pointless and blatantly obvious fact after fact DOES NOT CHANGE the above. If that's your definition, then fine, just say so.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

They're cars of exquisite craftsmanship, and although not all of them are 100% perfect, apart for some faulty components that have been enhanced, the reliability issue is also due to the way owners drive these cars. These are no "turn the key and go" Prius, these cars need to be warmed up properly and driven with a different attitude.

Even in the best of hands and treatment the MANUFACTURER'S RECOMMENDED maintenance requirements are just pathetic. For such craftsmanship, you should get something better.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

The main thing I've noticed with Ferrari owners is that the "newcomers" always look at the fact they bought a Ferrari and are very hyped about it, but don't understand that they also need to get themselves a huge load of experience in driving a sports car together with it. Every car will get damaged or will suffer breakdowns if it's manhandled, and cars like older Ferraris, with no rev limiters, stability control and all the new gizmos they come with, are particularly prone because of the fact that they can be easily taken over the limits.

Your insufferable pandering is just plain sad. Now you're just trying to point fingers and blame their issues on everything BUT the cars.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

If you're really getting yourself a 328 make sure you have a thorough understanding of how the old Ferrari gearboxes work, or you'd be in for some bad surprises and costly bills for sure.

Oh please, stop trying to back off from the total a$$hat you've been up to this point.

--Outlaw.