Congratulations Jaguar!!!

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

You can have a 1000hp Ford GT which is still going to be a POS car, whilst a Ferrari, Porsche or Lambo a refined engineering marvels that outperform muscle cars easily...

First, calling a Ford GT a muscle car is just a plain stupid thing to say.

Beyond that...

You're correct if your definition of an, "engineering marvel", is a car that requires a $5k+ engine out service every 15k miles or 3 years. Admittedly I'm not up on the newer ones so they may be a little better but, still, there's not much engineering marvel in them. They are simply race engines and suspensions with a crappy car wrapped around them. Admittedly the 328 and older are smokin' hot to look at (the newer ones are really bland IMO), but, that's about it.

GM's stock 2 liter turbo Ecotec engine has as much torque as a 3.5 liter Ferrari 355 engine. The difference is the Ecotec produces it at 2600 rpm while the Ferrari needs 6000 rpm. With a $600 ECM reflash that does not void the factory warranty the Ecotec will produce 290 bhp and 340 ft-lbs of torque (as much torque as a Ferrari 430 at less RPM).

My turbo Ecotec has 35k miles on it with no issues (although I have replaced the tires already).

Anyone can make a race engine that's design life is one race (or 15k miles at 500 miles/month) and slap it into a car with ridiculous maintenance requirements

An engineering marvel is a solid engine that lasts.

Now don't get me wrong, my next toy car will probably be a Ferrari, but, they are not, "engineering marvels", by any stretch of the imagination.

And just for the record, a Laguna Seca Mustang handles at 1.03g (as compared to the 1.02g of a 2010 Ferrari 458 Italia).

--Outlaw.