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Old 06-15-2012, 06:12 PM
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@csThor Do you have any information on those Army Flak units aka KSTN's / TO&E's?

@HenFre I've decided to start of with Motorized Infantry Divisions. But specifically with each individual section untill I reach the whole division strength. The Document I have covers 4 of the 8 Motorized Divisions in May 1940. I cannot remember the Code for the document, but its Title German Motorized Infantry Divisions - 10 May 1940.

@csThore and HenFre There are NO Flak Units listed in the May 1940 Document. There are 4 Divisions covered: 2nd, 13th, 20th, and 29th (mot) INF DIV. In document 941GHAI Title: Organization German 20th (mot) Infantry Division - 23 August 1941 You can find that there is 1 Flak Unit attached to the 20th (mot) Panzerjäger Battalion: 1st Btry/52nd Self Propelled Flak Battalion with 12 20mm guns.

Strangely enough this exact same unit its also attached to the 18th (mot) INF DIV in document 941GHAJ.... Typo ?

Document 942GLAK you'll see a vast increase in FLAK defense. Title: German 60th (mot) Infantry Division Field Organization 21 December 1942. It has the following Flak Organizations:
10th Btry/160th Artillery Regiment (2 20mm & 3 88mm guns)
12th Btry/160th Artillery Regiment (11 20mm guns)
11th Btry/160th Artillery Regiment (3 88mm & 3 20mm guns)

Strange that these units are listed as Artillery Regiments.......

Here are some link of German Half Tracks that I've found that were built with Mounted AA:
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/...ks/sdkfz-6.asp
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/...ks/sdkfz-7.asp
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/.../sdKfz-251.asp
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/...s/sdkfz-10.asp
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:37 PM
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That's because in 1942 an Army Flak Battalion was attached to most mobile divisions as 4th Battalion of the divisional Artillery Regiment. This Army Flak Battalion was made up of three batteries, first and second with a light platoon with three 20mm Flak and a heavy platoon with four 88mm Flak 18/36/37 while the third battery had twelve 20mm guns. In 1943, however, these battalions were moved away from the Artillery Regiment and subordinated to the divisional staff directly.

In 1941 the divisional anti-tank battalion of a mobile division had one integral Flak company with self-propelled guns of the SdKfz 10/4, SdKfz 10/5 and SdKfZ 7/1 type (except 3rd, 19th and 20th Panzer Division - these had none) while 17th and 18th Panzer Divisions had to use pulled flak guns.
Some divisions even added a flak company to each motorized infantry / Panzergrenadier Battalion in late 1941, but this was by no means universal.

Source: Osprey Battle Orders - Panzer Divisions: The Eastern Front 1941 - 43

PS: The issue with the attached company from 52nd Self Propelled Flak Battalion is likely a typo. I guess it means one battery of this battalion was attached to the unit.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:13 PM
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Ok that makes more sense. I'm specifically researching Western Front 1940-1941 by the way. Since that's all we can really portray with CLOD right now.

Came across some new information.

I Flak Corps: Formed 1939. Assigned to Luftflotte 3, with units being assigned to Panzer Grouppe Kleist for Battle of France.
Contained the I Flak Brigade, and II Flak Brigade

II Flak Corps: Formed 1939. Assigned to Luftflotte 2. Assigned to support 4th Army (Kluge) and 6th Army (Reichenau).
Contained III Flak Brigade

IV Flak Brigade assigned to Munich defense 1940

VI Flak Brigade served in both Belgian and French Campaigns. Served around Paris. 1941 restationed to Darmstadt

VII Flak Brigade: Rear Echelon Defense during Battle for France

X Flak Brigade: Formed July 1940, defense of Dortmund
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:27 PM
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I.Flakkorps
II.Flakkorps
Flak-Brigade IV
Flak-Brigade VI
Flak-Brigade VII

Need more info?
Go to http://www.ww2.dk/ then go to Ground units and then to Flak Units.
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:38 AM
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I've been using that website also Kongo. Good site, just find it difficult at times to find the information that I'm looking for.
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Organisation of a German Army Light Flak Battery as of the 10. of may 1940:



Link to PDF containing the organisation chart:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9y...WctSWUwVzVENzA

Last edited by HenFre; 06-21-2012 at 06:44 PM. Reason: Added link to PDF
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:07 PM
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I've been using that website also Kongo. Good site, just find it difficult at times to find the information that I'm looking for.
Well if i can help you by research feel me to send me an PM.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:21 PM
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Well if i can help you by research feel me to send me an PM.
Where were you when I needed you months ago trawling for information!?
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