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Old 06-14-2012, 12:11 PM
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"The coefficient of friction IS A FUNCTION OF THE SURFACES."

of course since the friction coeficient is the tangent of the angle of the ramp when the box starts to move

so then you admitt those links saying friction being INDEPENDENT OF SURFACE are wrong

also you admit einstein couldnt have measured atmospheric starlight bending

then how COULD that eclipse have proof him and give him the nobel prize, maybe a fraud?

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thsi thread is very RELEVANT in gravity falsified

yours as well for those planes and that year but who would search your words while mine are very common

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outlaw youre the perfect exmplae of sophist with slight trolling for your slight personal attacaks

seems you want to convince somebody else not me for your ridiculous arguments

will you plz answer me this clear question with yes or no plz?

is force of friction dependant of apparent area of contact?
a)YES
b)NO
c)snoopy discovered america
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:53 PM
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so then you admitt those links saying friction being INDEPENDENT OF SURFACE are wrong
No, I do not admit that. I have clearly shown how both statements can be true at the same time.

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So it is true that, when manipulating the equation there is no dependence on the surface, BUT, when determining the coefficient of friction it is dependent on the surface.
What is so hard to understand about the above statement?

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also you admit einstein couldnt have measured atmospheric starlight bending
No, I NEVER admitted anything about the specifics of that experiment.

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then how COULD that eclipse have proof him and give him the nobel prize
Because you work with the tools & technology available at the time and make the best decisions based on that. A roundup infused rosebush has the brain power required to understand that.

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, maybe a fraud?
You could say, "maybe", about EVERYTHING...

Maybe we are in a matrix
Maybe we are in a truman show
Maybe we are all jellyfish like beings living in a big vat of mind altering drugs in an alien kids version of a fish tank
Maybe we are all just tiny little specks about the size of Mickey Rooney
Maybe every third person we see is a time traveler
Maybe your black hole has a huge event horizon

None of it can be proven yet you talk as if it's fact.

By definition the above can't be proven except in the brain damaged mind of a drug addict so what is the point of even talking about it?


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thsi thread is very RELEVANT in gravity falsified

yours as well for those planes and that year but who would search your words while mine are very common
Once again, DEFLECTION on your part. Your original statement said NOTHING about relevance. You didn't even know what the word meant until I said it.

So why won't you back up your statement that Google ranks based on traffic or admit that you are wrong? You have claimed many times that you admit when you are wrong but it is clear now that you were lying.

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Old 06-14-2012, 12:59 PM
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nope how google ranks webs its a mistery i wathced on tv that traffic influenced a lot

so to my question if force of friction is dependant of surface your answer is yes and no both

tell me how could have einstein accounted for sun atmosphere star light bending being this 15 time bigger than gravitational lensing

you could save words like drug adict damged mind, more stupid than a plant

you know too well thats what a child does when losing an argument

how did eisntein account for atmospheric starlight bending

is howed you one link that explain this wasnt account till the 90s show me one where shows he did account for this eeffect

the balls in your side since every knows he couldnt know what the sun atmosphere was like

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galileo tomamas and culomb and my teacher have a very clear answer for this:

is force of friction(not coeficient of friction) dpendant of surface?


a)yes
b)no
c)yes and no

wrong answer will be 3.333333..... negative points

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outlaw you brough up an interesting point:

i have a damage mind cause i take my ramblings as FACT

wel in this thread i havemention i DIDNT KNOW if relativity was true or not, in fact in the graviational lensing or not happening is the key on causality, although this was brought down imo by INSTANT quantum entanglement

so im QUESTIONING relativity

while you take relativity as FACT

who has the damaged mind then?

me who question and realizes i know nothing for sure

or you who takes OTHERS experiences and stories as FACT
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:29 PM
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nope how google ranks webs its a mistery i wathced on tv that traffic influenced a lot
If that is true, the person who stated that is incorrect. You claim you question everything but you accept that TV show as FACT! Why have you not researched it? You can find the answer easily if you take a few minutes. Yet you refuse. Why is that?

We all know the answer but please enlighten us anyway.

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so to my question if force of friction is dependant of surface your answer is yes and no both
I have clearly shown the answer and even asked what part you don't understand. In response you just regurgitate the same garbage you have been spouting.

Why won't you respond to my specific question?

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tell me how could have einstein accounted for sun atmosphere star light bending being this 15 time bigger than gravitational lensing

how did eisntein account for atmospheric starlight bending

is howed you one link that explain this wasnt account till the 90s show me one where shows he did account for this eeffect

the balls in your side since every knows he couldnt know what the sun atmosphere was like
I already said I don't know the specifics of the experiment. Furthermore, I have NEVER stated that he did account for it.

I have no interest in finding out the specifics of the experiment. If you want to know, YOU go find out.

You are arguing a point THAT I NEVER MADE.

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you could save words like drug adict damged mind, more stupid than a plant

you know too well thats what a child does when losing an argument
And you could have avoided calling engineers and scientists stupid. You could have avoided calling everyone that did not believe you stupid. But you didn't.

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galileo tomamas and culomb and my teacher have a very clear answer for this:

is force of friction(not coeficient of friction) dpendant of surface?


a)yes
b)no
c)yes and no

wrong answer will be 3.333333..... negative points
You are incapable of understanding the context of their answers or even of your question. That...is why you fail.

Besides, I already answered this one above.


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outlaw you brough up an interesting point:

i have a damage mind cause i take my ramblings as FACT

wel in this thread i havemention i DIDNT KNOW if relativity was true or not, in fact in the graviational lensing or not happening is the key on causality, although this was brought down imo by INSTANT quantum entanglement

so im QUESTIONING relativity

while you take relativity as FACT

who has the damaged mind then?

me who question and realizes i know nothing for sure

or you who takes OTHERS experiences and stories as FACT
You will NEVER be able to experimentally determine ANYTHING so, by your logic, NOTHING WILL EVER BE TRUE.

I take relativity as fact not because of an experiment in 1919, but because of recent experiments. You act as if nothing has been done since 1919.

And to reiterate, I NEVER stated that the 1919 experiment(s) took refraction into account.

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Old 06-14-2012, 06:03 PM
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to my question is the force necesary to beat friction surface dependant?

your answer: yes and no it depends

you see how youre a chip sophist who dont mind the truth how can a thing be and not be?

next questions:

do you THINK einstein took into acount atmospheric starlight bending when he got the nobel prize for light bending?

yes-no

do you think he should?

yes-no
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:22 PM
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to my question is the force necesary to beat friction surface dependant?

your answer: yes and no it depends

you see how youre a chip sophist who dont mind the truth how can a thing be and not be?
No, that was NOT my answer. I have ALWAYS said YES. I have NEVER said no or it depends.

I'm sorry that you can't understand what I'm saying but that's your problem and does not make it false.

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do you THINK einstein took into acount atmospheric starlight bending when he got the nobel prize for light bending?
I can't possibly answer that with a yes or no. I know absolutely nothing about the experiment. Only a total and complete idiot would give a yes or no answer to that question without researching the experiment.

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do you think he should?
Once again, that's not a yes or no question.

If the experimenter had the capability to do so then he/she should have. If not, then there should be no expectation for them to do so. If the knowledge that refraction was a possibility in the experiment it should, of course, be addressed by the experimenter.

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Old 06-14-2012, 06:33 PM
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No, that was NOT my answer. I have ALWAYS said YES. I have NEVER said no or it depends.


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http://www.tribology-abc.com/abc/history.htm

then science history is a farce

Da Vinci simply stated that:

the areas in contact have no effect on friction.
if the load of an object is doubled, its friction will also be doubled.
Note that the first statement is counterintuitive; most of us would assume that friction does depend upon the cross-sectional area.
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