Bug 174 on 12lbs boost. Review please.

[41Sqn_Banks]

Can all stop the bashing and the personal attack please?

[41Sqn_Banks]

A.P. 3397 Maintenance (1954)

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

A.P. 3397 Maintenance (1954)

Brilliant! Where did you find this?

[Kurfürst]

What's the excitement, we know for some time that the first stations changed over to 100 octane in February, hardly any news in that..

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

What's the excitement, we know for some time that the first stations changed over to 100 octane in February, hardly any news in that..

so you got any proof yet that any fighter in 11 group during BoB wasn't using 100 octane fuel yet........

and i mean proof, not your spam.

just one fighter report will do.......

are you ever going to rely on anything other than pre war documents, lol.

[Seadog]

Those years of research to make 100 octane commercially available paid off magnificently in historical significance during World War II. While aware of the superior quality of 100 octane as aviation fuel, Germany had neither indigenous petroleum Production nor a highly developed refining industry, and the possibilities of domestic production or storage on a large scale were limited. Indeed, when Hitler marched into Poland in 1939, the hydrogenation plant of Jersey's affiliate, Standard Oil of Louisiana, in Baton Rouge, was alone turning out more 100 octane gasoline than all the combined refineries and synthetic oil plank in Germany. Throughout the war, the Luftwaffe was forced to rely on aromatic types of synthetic fuels. The combat effectiveness of 100 octane was strikingly demonstrated initially in the Battle of Britain where Royal Air Force Spitfires and Hurricanes outfought the enemy. Germany lost 2,152 planes to Britain's 620.

The petroleum industry exerted a tremendous effort to keep the Allies supplied with 100 octane gasoline during the war years...
MJ Rathbone (President of Standard oil Company)Fuel for Flight, Flying Magazine Oct 1958, p37.

Funny how there's a complete lack of sources stating that RAF FC didn't exclusively use 100 octane fuel during the BofB...

[NZtyphoon]

More Oil...

[Crumpp]

Funny how there's a complete lack of sources stating that RAF FC didn't exclusively use 100 octane fuel during the BofB...

Except the original documents.....

I believe that by the time the battle ended by the German dates, the entire RAF FC was using 100 Octane.

Maybe, just maybe, if you end the battle in November or December 1940, the entire RAF FC had converted.

If you want to say in July thru September 1940 that the entire FC had converted you would be wrong. They were in the process of converting during that time.

You can line up all the evidence presented until July 1940 and it fits perfectly within normal convention phase testing for adaptation.

The Notes on a Merlin Engine portion of the Operating Notes are part of the airworthiness of the design and list the specified fuel for the aircraft. The conversion was important enough to publish a very clear instructions for ALL OPERATIONAL UNITS to use 100 Octane when Fighter Command converted. You do not see that in any Notes on a Merlin Engine prior to January 1942.

Boost override was available and authorized to be used by the Operating Notes. That calls into question any combat report which makes a reference to any over boost condition as being proof of 100 Octane fuel use.

The logistical documents are just that, logistics and not operational. Before the operational side of the house can do anything, they must have the logistics solved and the materials in hand. That they had the stuff is not proof of when it was used. It is only proof that they had it which is not in dispute.

The consumption reports do not show any 100 Octane being out at the airfields in useable quantity until the June thru July timeframe. In those months, it represents a small portion of the fuel used. In the October and beyond, 100 Octane consumption clearly shows a marked increase to reach some 34% of the Air Ministries fuel supply "forward of the railheads". In other words, not sitting in a tanker as part of the strategic reserve.

In other words, the developers of IL2 CLOD would be accurate in modeling both types of fuel not in modeling 100 Octane exclusively.