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Osprey 05-06-2012 11:53 AM

Bug 174 on 12lbs boost. Review please.
 
I'm about to update bug #174 on the Merlin 100 octane issue. I have re-written the bug for Artist as requested and would like a review. Kurfurst and Crumpp will be ignored, I am interested in ratification from one or more from Glider/Banks/NZTyphoon/Robo/lane. If this is ok I'll post the update, if there is anything I can add such as a good graph or table or test please post. Thanks.

Description
Presently if the Automatic Boost Control (ABC) is pulled on Spitfires and Hurricanes and full throttle applied there is no increase in boost above 6.25lbs even when the ABC is enabled. This results in reduced and inaccurate performance of RAF fighter aircraft.

During the BoB all frontline fighters had been modified to use 100 octane fuel in their Merlin II and III engines which allowed the engine to achieve 12lbs boost under strict limits. The Merlin XII engine fitted to the Spitfire II was designed to use this fuel from the factory. The approval and introduction of these changes gave the RAF fighters a performance boost in top speed, acceleration and rate of climb up to the Full Throttle Height (FTH) of about 18,000ft. At sea level a Spitfire was about 30mph faster when the ABC was enabled.

Merlin II and III (fitted to Spitfire Ia and Hurricane Ia)
The Merlin engines have a mechanical supercharger and can deliver up to 20lbs of boost at S.L. with the throttle valve fully open using either 87 or 100 octane fuel however this would cause serious engine damage by pre-detonation in the cylinders. Because of this the Merlin II and III have a boost controller fitted which limits the boost to only 6.25lbs. With modification to use 100 octane fuel the pilot could achieve 12lbs boost by pulling the Automatic Boost Control increasing the ‘safe’ power that the engine could produce. When the pilot applied the ABC on the Spitfire a thin wire was broken to indicate to the ground crew that ABC had been used and to make necessary checks. The Hurricane had a valve which was pulled (“pulling the tit”)

Merlin XII (fitted to Spitfire IIa)
The Merlin XII did not require modification in order to use 100 octane fuel. It had a slightly different throttle system and used a ‘gate’ on the throttle control. This allowed the pilot to achieve 12.5lbs boost on takeoff and is allowed up to 1000ft when he moved the throttle past the gate. Up to the gate 9lbs boost was achievable up to the FTH of 17000ft and later clearance was granted to use 12lbs boost (see pilot notes) There are lots of combat reports supporting this.

Here are the engine power ratings for given boost vs altitude
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/merlin3curve.jpg

Spitfire Ia prop tests using 6.25lbs boost and 87 octane
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfire-I.html
It contains information on the clearance and usage of 100 octane fuel including this graph for the Spitfire Ia using 12lbs boost
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/s...-rae-12lbs.jpg

Here is the performance test for the Hurricane Ia using 100 octane fuel and 12lbs boost
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...rricane-I.html

Here is the performance for the Spitfire IIa
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfire-II.html
Note that the boost for the tests is 8.8lbs, that is up to the ‘gate’ and this falls away from 17,500ft, the FTH.

Pilot notes for the Spitfire IIa indicate the limitations
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit2pnfs3.jpg

This report is evidence for the approval of 12lbs/100 octane prior to the Battle of Britain start
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/ap1590b.jpg

This is supported by lots of evidence of its use in combat reports (supplied by others in this bug report)

These reports not only supply data on the speed per altitude but also rate of climb and acceleration, plus some information of spin characteristics, dive ability and rate of turn. This should all be used to improve the current flight models for RAF types.

Glider 05-06-2012 12:28 PM

looks good to me

41Sqn_Banks 05-06-2012 01:25 PM

- IIRC ABC stands for "automatic boost control" and not the cut-out.

- Spitfire II had "gate control" for fixed take-off boost (it gave a fixed throttle valve setting) and "boost control cut-out" like the Spitfire I, see this thread: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31319

fruitbat 05-06-2012 01:28 PM

I think 1C will be as stubborn about this as they were about the FW190 bar in il2.

41Sqn_Stormcrow 05-06-2012 02:49 PM

Could you add any indications of the duration for which running at 12lbs / 12.5 lbs was allowed? They would have to model engine damage if the time was exceeded and is essential for any correct FM/DM

Glider 05-06-2012 03:48 PM

The official limit was 5 mins but there was nothing to stop pilots going for a lot longer than that. Dowding issued a memo to all pilots that warned them of overusing the boost. In some of the combat reports you sometimes see words along the line of switched guns to fire, lowered the seat and pulled the plug.

Osprey 05-06-2012 03:52 PM

@Banks: Thanks.
@Stormcrow: Pilot notes specify the limits.

Bonkin 05-06-2012 04:56 PM

Wow. That's a wealth of information that you have accumulated there Osprey.

I have an original Air Publication 1565A "The Spitfire I Aeroplane Merlin II Engine" manual which I thought might be useful - but I think those references you have must cover it all. I went through it specifically looking for performance charts but unfortunately there are none. There are change bars around the fuel and pitch sections though... and it states:

Fuel ....... Specification D.T.D.230
Note:- 100 octane fuel may be used, if the engine has been suitably modified.


Under the Automatic boost control it does mention +12lb/sq.in at sea level but does not tie this to 100 octane fuel.

Osprey 05-06-2012 08:02 PM

Just had a speed test in the Rotol Hurricane. Couldn't get more than 230mph ASi out of it, trimmed, level flight, at various RPm (best 2650). According to this:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...rricane-I.html

I should get 261mph with the Rotol which is 290mph TAS.

Biggs 05-06-2012 08:18 PM

i have a feeling as well that we will not have correct speed performance for these engines for a while.

I applaud the efforts of you and others to try and keep this issue near the forefront... 1C needs to get it right.


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