Pre-Purchase DCS P-51 Now!

[SiThSpAwN]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Only time will tell.. They said the same thing about CoD a few years ago!

Thats the thing right, I mean it scares me to see some of those screenshots... will we all need new computers?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN

Thats the thing right, I mean it scares me to see some of those screenshots... will we all need new computers?

Count on it!

Which is understandable.. When a game company puts in a effort to make a new game engine.. They are not targeting the current crop of video cards.. They are looking a few years down the road at hardware that does not even exist yet.. Thus once it is released it is 'expected' that only the current top of the line cards will even stand a chance of running at full settings at a decent but low fps.. But, a couple of years down the road, your average PC will be able to handled the graphics, and a few more years a low end PC will be able to handle the graphics

This is exactally what we 'had' with IL-2 and exactally what we 'have' with CoD

So, I fully expect that we will need new vid cards as a min upon release of a new game engine if not a whole new PC

[SiThSpAwN]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Count on it!

Which is understandable.. When a game company puts in a effort to make a new game engine.. They are not targeting the current crop of video cards.. They are looking a few years down the road at hardware that does not even exist yet.. Thus once it is released it is 'expected' that only the current top of the line cards will even stand a chance of running at full settings at a decent but low fps.. But, a couple of years down the road, your average PC will be able to handled the graphics, and a few more years a low end PC will be able to handle the graphics

This is exactally what we 'had' with IL-2 and exactally what we 'have' with CoD

So, I fully expect that we will need new vid cards as a min upon release of a new game engine if not a whole new PC

I get that, you get that.... the wife... not so much lol.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN

I get that, you get that.... the wife... not so much lol.

LOL.. Chicks Maaan.. Chicks!

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

At least it's enjoyable, and working....

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by 1.JaVA_Sharp

At least it's enjoyable, and working....

Enjoyable is realitive..

As for working..

Wellll..

Like the current CoD alpha patch.. The current DCS P51 has some aspects disabled..

Most notably for me is the Force Feedback is disabled..

Hard as hell to fly with a wet noodel FFB stick.. But do I run to the DCS forums and whine about it? Nope! Becuase they clearly pointed out that the FFB is disabled in this beta version

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Enjoyable is realitive..

As for working..

Wellll..

Like the current CoD alpha patch.. The current DCS P51 has some aspects disabled..

Most notably for me is the Force Feedback is disabled..

Hard as hell to fly with a wet noodel FFB stick..

Fixed that post for yer...

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Enjoyable is realitive..

As for working..

Wellll..

Like the current CoD alpha patch.. The current DCS P51 has some aspects disabled..

Most notably for me is the Force Feedback is disabled..

Hard as hell to fly with a wet noodel FFB stick.. But do I run to the DCS forums and whine about it? Nope! Becuase they clearly pointed out that the FFB is disabled in this beta version

+1

I bought the prepaid DCS A10C back when it was clearly advertised as "beta". I had all kinds of problems -- I'd get CTD's when merely doing key assignments, plus when flying the A10 for roughly five minutes the sim would "forget" my joystick (Sidewinder FFSB2 back then) and my A10 would careen out of control into the ground. I duly reported these two glitches on their forum and went on to other things --- checking in now and again for any patch fixes. Sure enough, the retail version came out, I applied the upgrade, and all worked fine.

Thus I had no qualms about prepaying for DCS P51D beta -- and it works great on my current system. The features that are missing (temperature control, etc) I'm confident will be there when the retail upgrade is released.

In retrospect -- and hindsight -- 1C should have gone the same route last year with their hurried launch. I think if they had been straight up right from the outset and still charge $60 (or there abouts) to "prepay" for a "beta" (alpha really, but who's quibbling? LOL) the PR debacle that quickly developed could have been largely avoided, or at least minimized. Their good name with the previous IL2: 1946 series would have assured them high sales right at launch, plus the inevitable whiners would have been effectively squelched with a "It's a beta, nimrod -- why'd you buy it if you're gonna complain?"

Despite the frustrations of the current CoD, plus new glitches with the latest patch and "Hotfix", Cliffs of Dover is still the only game in town for WW2 sims of this scope with a strong online capability. It WILL get fixed, and it's encouraging to see the 1C devs working more openly with the community with these latest patches.

I'm hoping 1C takes note of how their competitors work with their customers towards fixing and polishing their product. It's a complex task, and it's not helped that we don't all use the exact same console but instead we use Personal Computers with a near-infinite number of component and peripheral combinations between us!

I love to see new WW2-aircraft sims, though -- I have A2A's Wings of Power 3 Spitfire I/II as well. Although much different in scope, they still compete for our few discretionary dollars.....and competition is good!