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Old 04-27-2012, 11:44 AM
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What have pin and barell distortion to do with flat screen monitors and games? Or are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that I should be paying attention to the fact that most CRT monitors display a small amount of distortion due to the way the electron gun propagates light onto the (these days flat) glass screen?

Oh, and - is a lower fov a zoomed image or not?

you need to understand the difference between capturing an image (photography) and displaying an image on a screen (projection) as decsribed before with regard to the virtual world on a two dimensional surface




and ahhh, yes - your CRT monitor...

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It is indeed a LOT harder, and I suspect harder still given that I am using a CRT which tend to have very dark blacks. Spotting a series of black dots/shapes against a dark blue background on a dark monitor is a challenge to say the least, but I also suspect its about practice spotting which I lack, given that offline missions tend to be much more straightforward.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:48 AM
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you need to understand the difference between capturing an image (photography) and displaying an image on a screen (projection)
IS A LOWER FOV A ZOOMED VIEW OR NOT!

Answer the question.

Also, provide a link to substantiate lower fov settings in games increasing fisheye (curvilinear) distortion. We are not talking about distortion inherent to CRT monitor projection. We are talking about distortion induced by changes in FOV INGAME. Do not teach what you do not know

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Old 04-27-2012, 11:51 AM
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IS A LOWER FOV A ZOOMED VIEW OR NOT!

Answer the question. Do not teach what you do not know


tut -tut -tut -tut -tut

Come now, behave yourself - there's absolutely no need to go shouting
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:56 AM
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tut -tut -tut -tut -tut

Come now, behave yourself - there's absolutely no need to go shouting
Well now isn't that cute, he thinks he's getting a rise out of somebody. That's what you want isn't it?

If you cannot answer the question, it is clear you should not be talking about this subject, so best you move aside, salvage what is left of your reputation and let the reasonable adults that otherwise occupy these forums discuss this without you.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:59 AM
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So you got an answer yet, pops?

Didn't think so. But that's fine. I'll end this discussion here. With an explanation of binoculars and FOV.

http://www.binoculars.org/binocular-...field-of-view/
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Magnification and field of view work opposite each other in binoculars. The more you magnify, the smaller the viewing area around the subject, while lower magnifications yield larger fields of view. Some applications are best suited for lower magnification with wider views of the surroundings. Field of view is an important factor to consider when selecting a binocular.
Check and mate.

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Old 04-27-2012, 12:02 PM
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Well now isn't that cute, he thinks he's getting a rise out of somebody. That's what you want isn't it?

If you cannot answer the question, it is clear you should not be talking about this subject, so best you move aside, salvage what is left of your reputation and let the reasonable adults that otherwise occupy these forums discuss this without you.
You've already offered the "step aside" thing before... did you forget? I also at the time explained that reasonable men (now add adults) don't resort to derision and denigration... neither do they shout.

Put up what you have regarding your claim of FoV and binoculars being the same - go on, I double double dare you Your hand has been called
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:07 PM
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You've already offered the "step aside" thing before... did you forget? I also at the time explained that reasonable men (now add adults) don't resort to derision and denigration... neither do they shout.

Put up what you have regarding your claim of FoV and binoculars being the same - go on, I double double dare you Your hand has been called
Already did.

Sure, you can keep at it. But I've already thoroughly debased your reputation and argument.

From this point out its pointless for me to debate you any further. If you want to obstruct mature discussion with your immature trolling, that talks volumes. As for reasonable men - they would not step aside from the duty to deride the despicable.

But I will give you an opportunity to redeem yourself and get some brownie points, if you can explain to me the role of the sensor/viewing medium, in conjunction with FOV, to create magnification. Ie - what IS magnification? Do you know?

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Old 04-27-2012, 12:25 PM
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Already did.

Sure, you can keep at it. But I've already thoroughly debased your reputation and argument.

From this point out its pointless for me to debate you any further. If you want to obstruct mature discussion with your immature trolling, that talks volumes. As for reasonable men - they would not step aside from the duty to deride the despicable.

But I will give you an opportunity to redeem yourself and get some brownie points, if you can explain to me the role of the sensor/viewing medium, in conjunction with FOV, to create magnification. Ie - what IS magnification? Do you know?
well, if you can't put up something to verify your claim... just say so.


and... "what is magnification??

World English Dictionary
magnification (ˌmæɡnɪfɪˈkeɪʃən)

— n
1. the act of magnifying or the state of being magnified
2. the degree to which something is magnified
3. a copy, photograph, drawing, etc, of something magnified
4. a measure of the ability of a lens or other optical instrument to magnify, expressed as the ratio of the size of the image to that of the object
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