Oleg and Team.

[GOZR]

The AAA work provided on top of Oleg Great sim is Fantastic superior to almost all original maps .. It is also understandable that many are old and even from the first il2 many years back... many years back... This is not about programing nor FM, we can keep this aside and concentrate on design graphics.
If a works has been done promptly rushed as stated before by map maker that mean that the work wasn't real good and it doesn't mean that they were stupid... just a good critic of some design work/time period.

So there is no insult as some others try to imply but instead some raw critic.

Now what about trying to go forward and find that solution.

[GOZR]

Yvan if you have nothing to add or just been destructive well don't read my friend.. I'm just pushing for a good positive solution to all this..

Maybe i'm all wrong but at list why not trying.. what do you think ?

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Ok, maybe we do have this wrong, one can tell that english is not GOZR's first language, maybe he did not mean his OP to come out the way it did. It sounded pretty bad and it sounded intended but maybe not? Either way lets try and ignore the negative aspect of the OP and maybe discuss the meat of what GOZR is trying to say, which I beleive is to say that there is a wealth of talent as far as maps and textures going on at AAA that may indeed be usable material for oleg and team. I do agree that it would be difficult from a political standpoint for oleg to use work that came out of the original hacking but at the same time much work has gone on at AAA by folks who had nothing to do with the breaking of encryptions.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by GOZR

The AAA work provided on top of Oleg Great sim is Fantastic superior to almost all original maps .. It is also understandable that many are old and even from the first il2 many years back... many years back... This is not about programing nor FM, we can keep this aside and concentrate on design graphics.
If a works has been done promptly rushed as stated before by map maker that mean that the work wasn't real good and it doesn't mean that they were stupid... just a good critic of some design work/time period.

So there is no insult as some others try to imply but instead some raw critic.

Now what about trying to go forward and find that solution.

If 1C had taken the time to finish one map with such a detail and dropped 10% of the planes to compensate, I bet you'd say something different.

[GOZR]

3D guys making Planes and map makers design aren't not suppose to be a different team?....

[GOZR]

A good example tell me why you like BlackShark ? my answer should be in your answer.

[GOZR]

Yes Shinjiro

[HenFre]

Might be a stupid question, but what does AAA stand for?

[GOZR]

"All Aircraft Arcade" rather get "AAA" since the tittle really doesn't reflect well now.. imo

[Feuerfalke]

I think the basic misconception is the fact that there COULD be an acceptance from Oleg. How would that work?

1. 1C does not have the manpower to control the code that has been altered by the modders. So it's basically an all or nothing situation, no compromise or something.

2. We're not talking about new sounds being added to the game. The so-called soundmod includes modifications to the FM, cockpits, effects, physics, view-system, etc. What would YOU allow and what not? How could you say it's okay to have the bar in the 190 removed, but no 6DOF for the Tempest, because most of the cockpits are not modeled for that?

3. How would you control it online? There are already servers allowing the crack, if they are officially accepted, you cannot be sure if your opponent just modded the soundfiles or if he "by accident" reduced his aircraft weight to 0.1 or added a few hundred horses to his engine?


I guess you asked me about BlackShark?

I'm looking forward to see a really detailed modeled aircraft - that is what I am hoping for in BoB, too.
If you are refering to the mods for LockOn:
That is exactly the reason why I understand Oleg and his policy about these modifications: Once you got shot down by an IR-guided Phoenix AA-missile fired from an A-10 or saw some videos on youtube where a plane fires AMRAAMs like from a gatling-gun on an online server, you'd understand me better, maybe. I love the skins, I love the new textures, but I really, really hate to see an F111 fly like an F15, a B52 with the capabilities of an Su-33, etc. And there is no way to control these mods online!