Any plans to finally get a re-crypting?

[FC99]

Originally Posted by Storebror

I'd personally ask myself what for.
Offline it's everyone's own can of beer whether to use modified FM/DM sets or not.
Online if you're afraid to face players using edited FM/DM, just join crt=2 servers. You can be sure that there's no chance for them to join such kind of server.

CRT=2 is not a protection since the game is hacked. Still, as Caspar said, we don't have the plans to re-encrypt the game again,if community doesn't mind cheaters we don't mind either.

[Storebror]

Originally Posted by FC99

CRT=2 is not a protection since the game is hacked.

Which has what to do with each other?
I assume you know about crt=2 workflow?

Best regards - Mike

[FC99]

Originally Posted by Storebror

Which has what to do with each other?
I assume you know about crt=2 workflow?

If you know how CRT works than why you are asking the first question?

[Storebror]

Originally Posted by FC99

If you know how CRT works than why you are asking the first question?

One of us obviously just doesn't know what he's talking about
Consequently, it just doesn't make sense to go on discussing about it.
TD doesn't plan to apply any additional encryption, that's fine, halleluja, happy holidays and bottoms up!

Best regards - Mike

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by FC99

...we don't have the plans to re-encrypt the game again,if community doesn't mind cheaters we don't mind either.

And there's the attitude we know and love.
Jesus tap-dancing Christ.

[Feathered_IV]

Don't get too worked up. It was just an off the cuff remark, not scripture.

[CWMV]

I know, but without the use of smiles its impossible to tell for certain, lol!
I'd find it hard to believe that anyone still held that sort of assinine, backward view anymore.

[FC99]

Originally Posted by CWMV

I know, but without the use of smiles its impossible to tell for certain, lol!
I'd find it hard to believe that anyone still held that sort of assinine, backward view anymore.

Do you want the game to be encrypted? I guess not, so what is the problem? If you want to believe that nobody cheats , that's fine with me. But in the end this doesn't change the fact that cheating in hacked game is much easier than in an encrypted game. I demonstrated that to WarClouds server owner Sparx way back in Aug 28, 2007 to be precise.

And history of Il2 tells us that some people and squads did whatever they could to cheat when cheating was much harder than now. You want me to believe that all of them now turned into saints? C'mon, I'm not that naive.

Bottom line is,play whatever you want to play, mod whatever you want to mod and cheat if you want, I don't care. But I would like to know why some people want to maintain the illusion that cheating doesn't exist? That kind of attitude only helps cheaters so it is reasonable to believe that cheaters have the strongest motive to maintain that illusion, isn't it?

[Storebror]

Originally Posted by FC99

cheating in hacked game is much easier than in an encrypted game. I demonstrated that to WarClouds server owner Sparx way back in Aug 28, 2007 to be precise.

Warclouds is a prominent example of crt=0 mod enabled servers. Nobody ever said that it would be hard to "cheat" (whatever you call "cheating") on such kind of servers.
Join me on a crt=2 server, demonstrate the vulnerability there and I'll be your captivated observer. I'd owe you a beer even if you'd succeed on a crt=1 server.

Originally Posted by FC99

I would like to know why some people want to maintain the illusion that cheating doesn't exist?

Tell us who did.
Quite opposite I tell you again that unless the communication between server and client gets encrypted in an effective way, you won't get rid of users of the famous online "Radar" cheat, no matter what encryption you apply to the game itself.

Originally Posted by FC99

it is reasonable to believe that cheaters have the strongest motive to maintain that illusion

I don't get what you mean. Please express yourself clearly.

Best regards - Mike

[jermin]

In my opinion, the problem is more than cheating. It's more of the general feeling and quality control of the game. Graphics comes in a second place for a flight sim in my opinion (I think most hardcore IL2 fans agree with me on this).

The modded IL2 can never gave me the feeling of original IL2. If you have flown online in The Greater Green server back in 2005 and spits and 109s since its birth, you'll understand what I mean. As for me, the air combat itself, tactics and teamwork attract me more than graphics.

Second, what TD has said before, mods are made by different modders with different point of view on flight simulation and limited understanding of the game structure under different working environments (monitor color accuracy for example). In a word, the congregated game lacks consistency.

For this reason, I have confidence in the future of IL2 managed by TD.

Finally, I suggest with a win-win solution for the re-crypting of IL2. Mod community can still mod 4.101 (or 4.11) as they like. But starting from 4.12, IL2 will be encrypted to save the dying online community.