Friday Update, Q&A - December 23, 2011

[rollnloop]

I don't expect much from 1C, since the CoD release and Oleg left the sinking boat, but everyone needs to face facts imo: Luthier or anyone else can't develop much nor fix the game without money, and patching won't make money.

If the sequel is good (and it will need to be because there won't be many preorders, this whatever CoD receives in term of patches, i guarantee), then patching CoD via the sequel is a non issue. If sequel is not good enough, serie is dead, and Luthier is probably very much aware of this, as all of us, happy or upset customers, are, so switching every effort to make the sequel good is not the worst option imho.

This said, i won't preorder sequel, and won't buy it until it works as well as IL2 does, so make it good this time if you want my money

[csThor]

The way I am reading things - and I admit that the following contains pure speculation on my part - I am beginning to believe that Maddox Games consider CloD a failed effort and not worth the hassle to fix it. Rewriting the engine (FM, sound, GUI ... anything left that'll not be changed?) tells me that the current engine is not salvagable. IMO the new management 1C got when it merged with Softklub last year is another factor in this (read: money grabbers).

If BoM is indeed all that Ilya wanted for CloD then that would be nice, but from my PoV - and I have been an ardent fan of the Il-2 series and I have done little bits and things for almost each version of the game, at least until Oleg departed - that product will have to be just as big a hit as the original Il-2 was. It needs to be thematically sound, needs to have all the relevant objects and aircraft, it will need a much less complicated and nerve-wracking GUI, it will need a campaign system that is worth the title ... In short it will need to contain everything that CloD is missing right now. That's a tall order, especially since Maddox Games was never particularly good at developing gameplay factors or not wasting effort on pointless objects/aircraft.

[addman]

Originally Posted by csThor

It needs to be thematically sound, needs to have all the relevant objects and aircraft, it will need a much less complicated and nerve-wracking GUI, it will need a campaign system that is worth the title ... In short it will need to contain everything that CloD is missing right now. That's a tall order, especially since Maddox Games was never particularly good at developing gameplay factors or not wasting effort on pointless objects/aircraft.

Yes to all of that and here's hoping MG can pull it off, really hoping.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by David198502

i mean they arent aware of the dots visibility bug?for how long do we customers complain about that major bug, which really ruins online gaming?
and now we are told we have to wait for the sequel....well another 6 years?

When I read the answer to the ghost dots question I just KNEW it would be misinterpreted. What he means to say here is that the dots issue is part of the old graphics engine and they have not specifically tested the new engine to see if the dots issue persists. Since it is part of the old code that is going away in the new patch it is highly unlikely that this dots problem will continue in the new graphics engine. And NO, we will not have to wait for the sequel, the new patch will include the new graphics engine.

Originally Posted by JG5_emil

This is quite a pointless update. Myself and many others are suffering the Crash/memory leak or what ever it is called.

When will it be fixed??

What is the point having any features if you have no idea if the game is going to run for long enough. I looked forward to those JG27 coops but in each one I crashed having run out of memory and this after spending over £2000 on a new PC and further hundreds of pounds on controls and TIR etc. The game worked fine before the last two betas and now it is unplayable except for a short blast on a dogfight server.

Been patient since the release data and supportive all along but now I have just had enough. Shouldn't we get to play CLOD the way it was meant to be played before a new sim/addon comes out.

Anyone else feel like the BOB is going to get left in the dusk unfinished for ever now?

Um, there is a new patch right around the corner, shouldn't we wait to see if this patch fixes the mem leak before we AssUMe that this will not be fixed until the sequel? Even if the next patch doesn't fix it nowhere is it written that this crash issue will not be looked at and fixed in another patch before the sequel.

Insuber, I don't understand where you, and others, have gotten the impression that there will not be any patches to CloD until the sequel, where did you read that? You must have a better monitor on your PC than I do because I cannot see these hidden words you have apparently seen. The last thing Black Six said is that the patch may have a beta before the end of the year, the release patch will not likely be before the end of the year, and that info was from this frickin week. Relax folks, and learn reading comprehension, if someone says possible beta before December 31st. but not the final patch, that DOES NOT mean there will never ever be a patch as long as we all shall live, I have never seen a blacker bunch of pessimists and doom-sayers in all my days, how you have managed to make it through another day without hanging yourselves in a closet I'll never know....



Edit, I'm at work so I had to type up my reply in between other things so I had not seen lutheirs reply when I posted mine.

[bongodriver]

I have never seen a blacker bunch of pessemists and doom-sayers in all my days, how you have managed to make it through another day without hanging yourselves in a closet I'll never know....

AHMEN to that!!

[theOden]

There's no reading between the lines in this block:

We’ll work along the model similar to the old Il-2. There’s a single progression line from version to version dotted by sequels.
For example, we never released a patch for Forgotten Battles that contained new code from Pacific Fighters. The way to get it was to buy PF and merge it into FB. That’s exactly how it will be with CoD.

You will never ever be the serious sim-producer Bohemia Interactive is, obviously.
Saddening bad news in the first post. Really sad.
Good to know though so I guess I should say "Thank you" but there is no smile saying it.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by theOden

You will never ever be the serious sim-producer Bohemia Interactive is, obviously.

What? So let me see if I understand you correctly.. I have ARMA2.. And several versions of it.. The several versions due to the sequels Bohemia put out that made it incompatible with the previous version.. But the if I want to play the previous version I still can

Based on that, it sounds like 1C and Bohemia have the same approach to sequels.. Thus IMHO 1C is as serious as Bohemia when it comes to making games

I love this thread. It appears to be a competition to see who can put the most negative spin possible on the latest update from people who are constantly complaining about the lack of updates.

[Pudfark]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

I love this thread. It appears to be a competition to see who can put the most negative spin possible on the latest update from people who are constantly complaining about the lack of updates.

Not really an update to me...more of a dynamic "stall"..imho...

Originally Posted by Pudfark

Not really an update to me...more of a dynamic "stall"..imho...

I know. Your response is one of my favorites.