water cannon episode 2: return of the shotgun

[Sternjaeger II]

nearmiss, it's a common misconception, the UK citizen haven't been deprived of the right to bear arms, you can still have bolt action rifles, shotguns and semiauto 22s, I think it's more of a case of being deprived of common sense..

It's a good ol' Empire thing to show that things can be done their way and be right (take the driving on the other side for instance), especially when they're blatantly unorthodox. Truth is that people live a bit in denial here, and even when things affect them personally, they sit and wonder why nobody came to the rescue..

[bongodriver]

why do people find driving on the right so weird?...it just seems sensible that as most people are right handed that the natural driving style of on hand on the wheel and the gear shift leaves the dominant (right) hand in charge of actually steering the vehicle......it's also pretty usefull for pointing your gun hand out the window while doing a drive by

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

why do people find driving on the right so weird?...it just seems sensible that as most people are right handed that the natural driving style of on hand on the wheel and the gear shift leaves the dominant (right) hand in charge of actually steering the vehicle......it's also pretty usefull for pointing your gun hand out the window while doing a drive by

lol I feel comfortable driving here in the UK only because I'm left handed

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Truth is that people live a bit in denial here, and even when things affect them personally, they sit and wonder why nobody came to the rescue..

When the great storm Katrina was on it's way to New Orleans the people were told to get out now, evacuate! They had several days to do it, and most took that advice.

Yet, you could read and view interviews with people that were not leaving. Many died as a result. Sadly, there were over 300 school buses sitting in a compound that could have been used to evacuate many who did not have adequate transport. The mayor neglected to take that action. Those buses were still in the compound when the storm hit.

One commentator put it very bluntly. The government has taken the role of the mighty protector and defender for so long thousands of people are sitting and waiting for the government to do something about taking care of them while the storm is headed their way.

It's not about country, it's about citizens of any country that have become too dependent upon government for the most basic things.
Common senses have departed many individuals as a result, and evidently intelligence and self-reliance are gone as well.

[Hood]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

nearmiss, it's a common misconception, the UK citizen haven't been deprived of the right to bear arms... I think it's more of a case of being deprived of common sense..

Let me understand you. Guns are allowed (with certain restrictions and licensing etc) but the fact that other weapons are not allowed is evidence that the peoples of the UK are being deprived of their common sense? Or is it that the lack of common sense has led to us being deprived of the right to bear whatever arms we want?

I presume that either option is evidence that citiznes of the UK have not exercised their own judgment or their right to vote? Please explain, without references to "sheep" etc as that is just insulting.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

It's a good ol' Empire thing to show that things can be done their way and be right (take the driving on the other side for instance), especially when they're blatantly unorthodox. Truth is that people live a bit in denial here, and even when things affect them personally, they sit and wonder why nobody came to the rescue..

The following link might hold the truth about driving on the left, though I don't understand why that is seen as evidence of Empire unorthodoxy. Explain please.

http://www.2pass.co.uk/goodluck.htm

There is a thing called the "Blitz spirit" that occurs quite often. After the riots in fact. It means that we help each other in times of need. I'm not really sure when exactly we need to be rescued.

My own view about living in denial is we deny that we help others too much rather than helping our own. We're probably going to have to pay a lot to bail out the Eurozone.

Originally Posted by nearmiss

It is sad for UK, not having the right to bear arms. There will a come a day UK will have real regrets about that. The problems haven't even started in Europe, this summer of riots is the tip of the iceberg.

Do you know the lottery numbers too?


What is amazing is the style of disagreement. Those in the UK are saying "We don't want guns but if you want them in your country/culture that's fine". Those not of this country (or culture in Stern's case) are saying "Without guns you are wusses, your free will has been eroded and you're all going to pay for it."

Is there any chance of leaving it at that?

Hood


ps It is interesting that "clever" and sly, inflammatory insults are passing unmoderated.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Hood

ps It is interesting that "clever" and sly, inflammatory insults are passing unmoderated.

I'd say you got to say your peace, and naturally there are no inflammatory insults. LOL

I don't know the lottery numbers for sure, but with the huge ethnic and religious factions that are growing in population and eventual power in the UK and Europe. I'm comfortable with my prognostication.

So, like Tree_UK prognostications... we'll have to wait and see won't we?

In the meanwhile, we will just have to discuss things without getting all torqued about someone else's views.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

I'd say you got to say your peace, and naturally there are no inflammatory insults. LOL

I don't know the lottery numbers for sure, but with the huge ethnic and religious factions that are growing in population and eventual power in the UK and Europe. I'm comfortable with my prognostication.

So, like Tree_UK prognostications... we'll have to wait and see won't we?

In the meanwhile, we will just have to discuss things without getting all torqued about someone else's views.

yeah, we're surrounded by extremists, terrorist cells, violent crime, yet people really think the police will take care of it..