Spit IIa

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by David198502

good to know....the FMs definitely need to be tuned.
i think that there is a major consensus that all of the planes are undermodeled except the spitII.at least the majority of the community seems to be of that opinion, including myself....

Nice details, but... broken off on the right wing. I flew home and landed.

[David198502]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

Nice details, but... broken off on the right wing. I flew home and landed.

i dont know on what you are exactly refering to, but if its a gramar mistake, i have to apologize.
english isnt my mothertongue and i expect mistakes in this long post of mine.

[Whiski]

Indeed some really good info here. If I am correct in my interpretation, it would seem the Spit IIa conforms within the +/- 5% with regard to speed at alt. The 109 seems to be out of range regarding speed and falls short of its proper maximum limits at various altitudes.

Would that be a correct analogy? If so, I agree that having a correctly modeled a/c flying against ones that are currently not modeled correctly, inappropriate and unnecessary. Unnecessary because there are great virtual pilots among us who can fight extremely well with what planes they have available, be it at a disadvantage or not, and still come out with victory, or in a defeat, a hard fought battle that both victor and vanquished can say "good fight mate, white knuckle all the way".

I am looking forward to having the a/c fine tuned for performance. In the mean time, flying the 109, Spit variants and the Hurricane with a great bunch of people, I am still having fun and learning quite a bit about each a/c's pro's and con's.

Keep the info coming gents, I love reading and learning about these era fighters and the men who flew them.

Cheers

Whiskey

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by David198502

i dont know on what you are exactly refering to, but if its a gramar mistake, i have to apologize.
english isnt my mothertongue and i expect mistakes in this long post of mine.

Oh, nothing wrong with what you wrote, i agree with it. The FMs really need to be reworked. I just wrote, because the cooling water is interesting, but until a broken wing is not a fatal damage, what can we expect at all the other damage ? Maybe not a big deal, but I was stunned

[MD_Titus]

looking a few pages back at the figures posted for in game speeds and percentage they are off from r/l, is this something that is reproduced by a wide number of competent pilots, as in what's the sample size? anyone got figures/speeds outside those ranges posted?

[Redroach]

no, it's surely not, considering I made just a quick test a few months ago in a Spit Ia and it behaved exactly as advertised in a real performance graph. That was at a time where those people here had a major rant about why they couldn't reproduce the plane's max speed (as in absolute max) at sea level resp. "at about 1000 feet". Well, they've got that figured out as of now but I wouldn't exactly think of them as test pilots...

[Ataros]

109s must be banned on all the servers as they outturn even Hurri. Proved now.
(the gunsight is a track recording bug and I am not the driver)

What is the historical 109 turnrate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G5Be...layer_embedded

/trolling mode off

Yes, track recording works online now.

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Ataros

109s must be banned on all the servers as they outturn even Hurri. Proved now.
(the gunsight is a track recording bug and I am not the driver)
What is the historical 109 turnrate?
/trolling mode off
Yes, track recording works online now.

Hi. Who was the pilot of a Hurricane? He said what? Which systems is damaged, when he got the first hit? After that the speed at which he could turn to? He was able to keep the corner speed? Does it make sense to compare after that?

When we practicing on own server, the Hurricane does not seem a bad aircraft. It would be nice, if these "proofs" repeated under controlled conditions, for example on a 1v1 map...? It is possible...?

[David198502]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

Oh, nothing wrong with what you wrote, i agree with it. The FMs really need to be reworked. I just wrote, because the cooling water is interesting, but until a broken wing is not a fatal damage, what can we expect at all the other damage ? Maybe not a big deal, but I was stunned

well when my left aileron was hit, it lost maybe about a third of its surface(only of the aileron), and i immediately could feel the decreased rollrate,so that is modeled correctly i think....regarding the damaged rads....im not really sure what was hit,...but i lost liquid for a short period.it didnt last long until my plane seemed to be leakproof again.

[David198502]

regarding the turn rate of the bf...i know that is no evidence and im not an expert on these matters, but i recently watched an interesting docu on history channel where a former german fighter pilot states that the early bfs were really agile planes which could follow a turn of the spits in certain conditions for a certain time.he also stated that the spits were overall better turners, but that expierenced pilots knew how and when they were able to follow a turn and shoot the enemy.i found it interesting that he also said that he was dissapointed by the late g models cause they became too heavy to be used as turn fighters.