Why does luthier even bother?

[RAF_Nudge]

Originally Posted by Vengeanze

Releasing a beta that locks the game at first explosion????!!!?!?!
How does that give you confidence in their competence?
How could it slip through?
If they knew about it then perhaps communicate that to us - their unpaid beta testers.

Sorry if anyone disagrees with me...actually no I'm not...

But for most I think they expect far TOO MUCH from thier systems!
I am using above the recomended specs on a dedicated gaming rig and by no means is it top notch either. My game runs fine on full settings, but maybe I'm one of the lucky ones? I don't know..My specs are at the bottom of post.


MY POINT HERE IS:
To post as much detail including your crash dump files and system specs as well as your current graphics drivers and even sound drivers etc for the developers to look over and allow them to determine what the issues are....and thus move foward with beta to an official release sooner rather than later..

I myself have had the installer stop working and drop out of game forcing a game restart but have not got any crash dumps at this stage. Folder is empty?

MY SYSTEM
CPU Phenom II X4 965 @ 3.4 Ghz (Quad Core)
MB Gygabyte GA-78LMT-S2P
GPU Gigabyte 1gb GTX550 ti Nvidea Drive Ver 280.26
RAM G.Skill 8gb DDR3 1333mhz
OS Win 7 Home Premium 64Bit OEM
PSU A-Power M80 Plus 550W 80+ Certified
CASE Antec 300 gaming tower with twin 140mm fans 1x inlet 1x exhaust
MONITOR Acer 21.5" V223HQBD 5ms Monitor
HDD WD 3.5" 500gb Blue Sata 3 7200rpm
JOYSTICK Saitek Cyborg evo

[SYN_Repent]

your game runs "fine" nudge?? im sorry but i think your perception of fine and everyone else's must be out of whack, as looking at your screenshots there, the cpu and gfx card you have, there is no way the game would run "fine" on high settings, especially the settings your using, christ, if its true then we all need to build your system.

fine for me is 60 fps, locked at my vsync, what fps are you getting to state a fine performance??

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

your game runs "fine" nudge?? im sorry but i think your perception of fine and everyone else's must be out of whack, as looking at your screenshots there, the cpu and gfx card you have, there is no way the game would run "fine" on high settings, especially the settings your using, christ, if its true then we all need to build your system.

fine for me is 60 fps, locked at my vsync, what fps are you getting to state a fine performance??

+1

I have a "modern rig" and still need to reduce the settings to have good performance...I noticed slowdowns only when I ditch or (sometimes) when more planes are around me...

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

fine for me is 60 fps, locked at my vsync, what fps are you getting to state a fine performance??

Using your criteria Repent, NO flight sim that I have ever bought (going back to Elite on my Apple][+ and I've had a few of them) has ever run "fine" at release. Until I see a video of you running the original Il2 playing the Black Death track at a consistent 60 FPS I will take your comment with a grain of salt!

Cheers!

[SYN_Repent]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Using your criteria Repent, NO flight sim that I have ever bought (going back to Elite on my Apple][+ and I've had a few of them) has ever run "fine" at release. Until I see a video of you running the original Il2 playing the Black Death track at a consistent 60 FPS I will take your comment with a grain of salt!

Cheers!

perhaps you read my comment wrong, but you admit that when we are getting to the stage of 60fps then we can talk fine?? and tbh mate, we are hardly still in the new release stage are we?? six months has passed since then.......

i could show you rise of flight running at a constant 60 fps, during actual game play, not some silly black death benchmark,the old il2 also ran at 60 fps during game play, ya can have a full shaker of salt with this comment, watch you dont get any on ya though, you might melt

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

perhaps you read my comment wrong, but you admit that when we are getting to the stage of 60fps then we can talk fine?? and tbh mate, we are hardly still in the new release stage are we?? six months has passed since then.......

i could show you rise of flight running at a constant 60 fps, during actual game play, not some silly black death benchmark,the old il2 also ran at 60 fps during game play, ya can have a full shaker of salt with this comment, watch you dont get any on ya though, you might melt

I've got ROF and on my system there is no way I can get 60FPS consistently. If your saying that the benchmark for fine is a consistent 60FPS your telling me that ROF cannot be considered 'fine'!

Black Death is supposed to push a system. What is the ROF equivalent?

Oh! And the language! I work with troubled children and I expect the sort of language you have been using at work (I'm paid for putting up with it) But like a lot others, I use this forum as a form of recreation and basically the words you are using are offensive and are against the rules for the forum.
I sure you are mature enough to understand it is uncalled for.

Have a nice day!

[SYN_Repent]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Black Death is supposed to push a system. What is the ROF equivalent?

Oh! And the language!

first of all, yes your right, its supposed to push a system, but its not gameplay is it?? mr.nudge is playing the game, with high settings, using a sub par system (compared to up to date components) and claims it runs "fine", and as i stated, what is his opinion of fine?



@ nudge, check my posts again mate, there are a few where i have stated my system specs, i have discussed ATI crossfire, in the last beta and before then i had the game running fairly well, not satisfied, but better than some of the poor souls on here who are truly dissapointed, and that is with ATI crossfire, my statement to you was that your opinion of fine using those settings and an inferior rig, and my settings which are lower, are different.

I7 870 @ 4.2ghz
2x ATI 4890 1GB crossfire (working @ 42% per card, varies with settings (scaling) )
8GB ram
24" monitor
win 7 64

nudge, explain to me what exactly is a dedicated gaming machine?? even an xbox or playstation isnt one of these anymore.

[RAF_Nudge]

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

first of all, yes your right, its supposed to push a system, but its not gameplay is it?? mr.nudge is playing the game, with high settings, using a sub par system (compared to up to date components) and claims it runs "fine", and as i stated, what is his opinion of fine?



@ nudge, check my posts again mate, there are a few where i have stated my system specs, i have discussed ATI crossfire, in the last beta and before then i had the game running fairly well, not satisfied, but better than some of the poor souls on here who are truly dissapointed, and that is with ATI crossfire, my statement to you was that your opinion of fine using those settings and an inferior rig, and my settings which are lower, are different.

I7 870 @ 4.2ghz
2x ATI 4890 1GB crossfire (working @ 42% per card, varies with settings (scaling) )
8GB ram
24" monitor
win 7 64

nudge, explain to me what exactly is a dedicated gaming machine?? even an xbox or playstation isnt one of these anymore.

I only use the machine for games not surfing the net and downloading torrents etc i have two laptops and another desktop for that but this is way off topic in relation to my first post.

Once again...YOU HAVE COMPLETLEY MISSED THE POINT OF MY FIRST POST

But to answer the question of FPS I am getting an avg of 20fps with fraps on those settings with my system what are you getting with yours? If you are getting this or more then whats your problem are you have game locks/freezes/crashes? If so then I refer to the original reason and topic for my first post and ask why have you not uploaded crash dumps etc?

I was under the impression that the game did not support dual cards..so i guess this could be the root of your problem given the following info.

Pixel Rate
The GeForce GTX 550 Ti will be much (more or less 35%) more effective at FSAA than the Radeon HD 4890 1GB, and able to handle higher resolutions better. (explain)

GeForce GTX 550 Ti
21600 Mpixels/sec

Radeon HD 4890 1GB
16000 Mpixels/sec

Difference: 5600 (35%)

SOURCE: hwcompare.com

My game runs and is very playable online and off I did also notice that most of your posts are simply digs at others with no real constructive point other than creating conlict and friction amongst those on the forums...and therefore really don't contribute to the forums in a productive way!

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

perhaps you read my comment wrong, but you admit that when we are getting to the stage of 60fps then we can talk fine?? and tbh mate, we are hardly still in the new release stage are we?? six months has passed since then.......

i could show you rise of flight running at a constant 60 fps, during actual game play, not some silly black death benchmark,the old il2 also ran at 60 fps during game play, ya can have a full shaker of salt with this comment, watch you dont get any on ya though, you might melt

It is one thing to dispense your worldly wisdom in a posting, quite another to always find a way to insult someone before you are done writing.

The insults you keep putting out are going to get you banned. The only reason I make this post is to let others with a similar literary skills to be forewarned.

Syn_Repent and JK52Krupi, next time you guys pull these kinds of stunts you'll get a ban for it. Yes, this posting isn't as bad as some, but the point is made.

A quote from previous poster - Gerbil Maximus, "We can disagree and discuss without the insults"

[RAF_Nudge]

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

your game runs "fine" nudge?? im sorry but i think your perception of fine and everyone else's must be out of whack, as looking at your screenshots there, the cpu and gfx card you have, there is no way the game would run "fine" on high settings, especially the settings your using, christ, if its true then we all need to build your system.

fine for me is 60 fps, locked at my vsync, what fps are you getting to state a fine performance??

Remember this is a dedicated game pc only there is no rubbish running in the backgound burning resources and causing latency issues of wich most may misinterpret as a graphics issue or lag. As for my in game perfomance I will endevour to post evidence of how well it runs on my system...My game is very playable although I have not yet checked framerates I imagine they are not more than average of 30fps the maximum the human brain/eye can register. However it is smooth to play even with those settings in nvidea settings as global settings..the only lagging i experience is from the servers online with regard to caching player skins and spawn lag...dont get me wrong of course the game is not up to standards and in my opinion yet to be of merchentable quality and as such should be a closed beta test..however its too late for that as this is the best possible way I think the developers can confront the ongoing battle with this development.

BUT THE POINT OF MY POST IS NOT ABOUT MY SYSTEM BUT ABOUT OTHERS...and there crash.dmp files and specs etc so the info can be used to address the short comings of the game....A WELL KNOWN FACT THESE SHORT COMINGS...(The developers already know all this what they need is constructive feedback with supporting evidence that they can use to move forward. But for some reason everyone continues to state the obvious without providing the info the developers have requested. YES post the issues you are having but also POST the info requested or dont be a part of the Beta testing for the patches PLAIN AND SIMPLE thats my point.

OK SYN_Repeat I havesearched all 47 of your posts, but alas not once have you provided any details with regards to usable info such as crash.dmp or even your system specs???????

As this is my point exactly, so I ask you this...what are your specs mate? And what game settings are you using with what results?

At least from us (All on these forums) doing this we can maybe try each others settings to see if we get the same results or different?

My bet is that you are using an ATI GPU?

For those having issues if you have a spare HDD try a clean Operating Sytem install and running the game from there.