Post made by Jason at Sim HQ

[FrostGuru]

Originally Posted by andrea78

With just 1 milliony - in Italy (my country) - you can hire 10 experienced researcher for at least 5 years of works!

I'm joking (ehm... not to much!), but my impression is that budget was enough for a complete game...

8 million is nowadays only a drop on the bucket in the field of game development. Recent game developments have today a budget that compares to low-budget Hollywood productions, means 25-30 millions are a good start.

[Blackdog_kt]

Ok, let me try and defuse this.

The initial post by zapatista has some interesting points, minus the effort of provoking Tree.

It's been a civil thread with some interesting information and speculation that hasn't devolved into a flamewar thus far. Please, let's keep it this way guys.

I know it might be hard for you two to play nice after your past encounters but come on...i wouldn't want to have to move posts to the arguments thread when it's been nice and cozy so far

Tree: You're on two out of three warnings mate, i know it's the slip of the tongue and use of idioms sometimes but try to contain profanity somewhat, there are minors on the board and people report posts for stuff like that. I talk that way among friends in the bar too, but here's a public forum so i think it best to try and step lightly in certain matters.

Zap: You made a pretty good post giving your side of the story, no need to stir up trouble and reduce your well-put post to flamebait.


I don't want to have to move posts, serve warnings or ban anyone because it's my belief that anyone can contribute something useful if being on the right mindset. Let's just play nice. See, i didn't even break out the red text for this, this is how calm this thread has been thus far

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Ok, let me try and defuse this.

The initial post by zapatista has some interesting points, minus the effort of provoking Tree.

It's been a civil thread with some interesting information and speculation that hasn't devolved into a flamewar thus far. Please, let's keep it this way guys.

I know it might be hard for you two to play nice after your past encounters but come on...i wouldn't want to have to move posts to the arguments thread when it's been nice and cozy so far

Tree: You're on two out of three warnings mate, i know it's the slip of the tongue and use of idioms sometimes but try to contain profanity somewhat, there are minors on the board and people report posts for stuff like that. I talk that way among friends in the bar too, but here's a public forum so i think it best to try and step lightly in certain matters.

Zap: You made a pretty good post giving your side of the story, no need to stir up trouble and reduce your well-put post to flamebait.


I don't want to have to move posts, serve warnings or ban anyone because it's my belief that anyone can contribute something useful if being on the right mindset. Let's just play nice. See, i didn't even break out the red text for this, this is how calm this thread has been thus far

Fair do's, I apologise for rising to Zap's bait.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Zap: You made a pretty good post giving your side of the story, no need to stir up trouble and reduce your well-put post to flamebait.

it's a fair cop, guv ! you got my vote

seeing the content of some of tree's posts sometimes just awakens the instinct of the toreador walking past the arena

[furbs]

It doesnt really matter now who was right, it makes for a pretty sad state of affairs. All it really leaves me with is "what could of been".

[=FI=Scott]

$8 Million.

What can you say. Rock on Oleg.

[Jaws2002]

I have an idea. How about instead of going on and on with this nonsense, we all go online in Syndicate and shoot and blow up stuf?

It feels a lot better to park a 110 behind a Wellington and pound away until it falls to pieces, or bomb some poor sod warming up his Spitfire, and then run like hell with all his budies chewing on your rudder, than throwing all this mud across the forum.
A lot better terapy for all this anger. You at least do something fun with it.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

I have an idea. How about instead of going on and on with this nonsense, we all go online in Syndicate and shoot and blow up stuf?

It feels a lot better to park a 110 behind a Wellington and pound away until it falls to pieces, or bomb some poor sod warming up his Spitfire, and then run like hell with all his budies chewing on your rudder, than throwing all this mud across the forum.
A lot better terapy for all this anger. You at least do something fun with it.

+1
Though its changed to ATAG.

Its hard to see what people are complaining about when your warming up your Merlin and the bombs start going off around you.

Cheers!

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

I have an idea. How about instead of going on and on with this nonsense, we all go online in Syndicate and shoot and blow up stuf?

It feels a lot better to park a 110 behind a Wellington and pound away until it falls to pieces, or bomb some poor sod warming up his Spitfire, and then run like hell with all his budies chewing on your rudder, than throwing all this mud across the forum.
A lot better terapy for all this anger. You at least do something fun with it.

god idea. But without sound / or trees. cosntant stutter and other problems, i keep my anger therapy to 1946.

good luck

[Igo kyu]

We'll probably never know, but it does all make a horrible sort of sense.

In software it's a tradition that when someone is fired, they are told to clear their desk and leave the premises immediately. If they did that to Oleg, then they would assume, incorrectly I'm sure, that anything he touched, could be a logic bomb. So, any code on Oleg's work computer would be out of bounds.

Which explains the mess, if Oleg and only Oleg was compiling the final builds, then suddenly all of the work is broken up, nobody has a build of the current software, all there is is what other people were working on at the time, and they are bits of a jigsaw puzzle with the body of the puzzle removed.

I suppose it's possible to do that, and still demand that Oleg appear in public to be working for the firm, why I can't really see, but it could be done.

The guy following on would be in a pickle, having to pick up the pieces and try to remake the jigsaw.

It wouldn't be Oleg's fault (except not finishing quick enough that it didn't happen), it wouldn't be Luthier's fault, it would almost not be the money men's fault, except the paranoia that didn't allow Oleg's work to be included.

It is just a guess, however it looks to me like as plausible an explanation for where we are now as we are going to get.