RoF sale. Worth getting it now!

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Ataros

I'd feel screwed if I purchased RoF in 6 months or 1 year after release. Thus I purchased it 2 years after the release when it is good enough for me. Entirely my decision, my responsibility, no one to blame for bad feelings. We are all learning anyway.

CloD in its WIP stage was good enough for me immediately on release day. Entirely my decision, my responsibility, no one to blame for good feelings. To me sim software is not like a dvd-player or a car or a TV, but rather like a beautiful garden that you grow or a castle that you build watching it becoming better and better year after year. To you it may be different of cause. Then you should make different decisions based on your personal criteria.

If you do not want to support all sim developers don't. Your decision, your responsibility. Make it, take it

Originally Posted by CharveL

What he said.

CloD was much less than even I expected on release. However, the flight modelling and damage modelling alone gave me enough satisfaction to get some money's worth out of it along with the knowledge that my measly fifty bucks was going to help the only noteable ww2 flight sim maker survive long enough to continue development.

Sure, it's just as valid to look at it as if you were ripped off by a scheming, evil company that had to trick you into spending that huge sum of money, if you prefer. But myself, I've pretty much put it on the shelf until there is something more to do than shoot down bombers (as satisfying as that is in itself once a week) and will go back once most of the major bugs are sorted out and there is some "game" element injected.

Some sage advice would be to simply wait one week after release of any game/sim for reviews before drooling over the "buy" button five seconds after release. This way you can save yourself some $ and heartache.

Pretty easy really.

Exactly. I'd still feel like wasting money if i was spending it on RoF, even in its current, much improved state and it's not so much about the "pay per flyable" (or even altimeter/gunsight, now with the field mods) business model. In fact, if i had been spending the cost of a beer every week on RoF, i'd probably have all aircraft and all field mods by now so while the total cost is indeed high, spreading it out over a longer time doesn't make it much of an expense.

I just don't like much of their design decisions and the engine's capabilities are almost maxed out already, so i prefer to spend my money on that extra beer while talking with friends in the bar.

I tried the demo 2-3 times during the first year and i have the free version sitting on my hard drive, i haven't fired it up more than 2-3 times since it became free to play. The only reason it's still there is that i don't need spare hard drive space yet, once i do it will probably be the first thing to go.

Does it mean it's a bad sim that deserves to die? Not really, as long as people enjoy it and it creates a hub/community for the simulator genre it deserves to survive. I don't like it, but some do and i have no problem with it.

And that's why, despite my personal less than stellar opinion about it, i don't buy add-on planes for it and then go to their forums to complain that the game is expensive for what it offers

I got in a lot of heated arguments with other simmers on simHQ very early on in regards to their design choices because it was early days and there was some hope of steering them in a different direction through fan/potential customer pressure, but not anymore, i just let it go completely a few weeks after it was released.

When it became clear they wanted to do things another way and wouldn't provide an alternative that would suit me, there was no reason for me to spoil the fun for anyone that might enjoy it. I just decided to pass it by and let others have their fun with it.
Who knows, if it thrives on those people currently flying it maybe it will become even better and i'll start liking it too. However, if i go about actively discouraging others from flying it, it will either flop and then nothing positive will come out of the whole deal or it will keep on going and people in the RoF forums will be getting a mental image of a grumpy old man who's chasing the kids in the neighborhood whenever they see my username. It's just not worth being bitter, neither for me nor for other people

Sadly this kind of common sense that is afforded to other flight sim studios, much of the flight sim community doesn't extend to the 1c team as well. Maybe if they had to pay for their 100 octane Spitfires and uprated DB601s instead of getting them for free in a patch like we got the 109E-1 and will probably get the E-4 too, they would behave in a better manner

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

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That post was, although lenghty, very well put and mentions some things I also wanted to express. Too bad it vanished on the previous page, being the last post on it.