hello luthier!

[Vittuuntunut]

Originally Posted by carguy_

New people are always welcome.



You don`t care about this game at all. Yet you somehow continue to roam these forums and complain. I suggest you leave rightaway.
The devs are supporting CloD and will continue to do so.

New people are always welcome! *profanities*
To what? "Please be cheated!"

Is it impossible for you fanboy-lot to understand that most of pissed off people are so pissed because they paid more than just 50 € to play this game? They built monster-rigs and still can´t get game to work in the way that it is even remotely satisfying.

Oh yeah, I forgot that there are thousands of people that fly over london, fighting intense dogfights, all maxed out with 200+ FPS! I forgot that it´s your ûbermagic-rig that sets the standards for who is allowed to complain and who isn´t.

As you can clearly see there are manymanymany people who are very displeased about the games performace. What makes you think that they are all trolls who don´t own the game or don´t care about it? Is it because the game works for you?

I think it´s close to criminal to sell this broken game twice. To "welcome" new people to this "stfu, your rig just sucks!" / "it will be fixed!" mess. Even though this game works for some, there still are too many people suffering from poor performance.

I think this constant stream of "whinig" should really be here and stand as a warning. You shouldn´t be able to sell the crap and get away with it

Let alone do it twice!

Is this really so hard for you to understand Carguy?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Vittuuntunut

New people are always welcome! *profanities*
To what? "Please be cheated!"

That is simply not true. If this game came out as is, with support discountinued, then you would be right. The support however stands and continues.

Is it impossible for you fanboy-lot to understand that most of pissed off people are so pissed because they paid more than just 50 € to play this game? They built monster-rigs and still can´t get game to work in the way that it is even remotely satisfying.

Do you even realise that pinning a fanboy label on me only shows that you can`t put up with my posts? It`s the easiest way, but rarely effective.

I have explained, along with other patient people that it`s not much money. A date costs roughly as much. The cost of whatever PC you built to run this game doesn`t concern any of us at all. You didn`t check how the game runs, you didn`t gather any information. You built a 2000€ rig and are pissed. You`re pissed at yourself and you need to find someone, anyone, that you think is responsible to make you feel better. Not the way to go. Keep your anger to yourself.

Oh yeah, I forgot that there are thousands of people that fly over london, fighting intense dogfights, all maxed out with 200+ FPS! I forgot that it´s your ûbermagic-rig that sets the standards for who is allowed to complain and who isn´t.

Oh, so you DO understand some of the stuff that`s being posted by those who acutally try to HELP others. No 200fps here but given the modest rig that I have setting a few switches lower helped. All still with visual quality unsurpassed by anything else on the market. I also bought this game for multiplayer and I can`t fly online, but I know all this will come. In the meantime I play other games, and mostly LIVE to do other , more important things in life. For example today in the morning I traveled 50 miles to hospital to take my cousin who had a surgery knee operation, went back , set him up in his house and here I am writing at the forums. He won`t be able to play basketball no more.
You seem to have only the PC in your life. That is not good, you should change it. Maybe do something for other people for a change.

As you can clearly see there are manymanymany people who are very displeased about the games performace. What makes you think that they are all trolls who don´t own the game or don´t care about it? Is it because the game works for you?

Many? I see less than 10 people spamming these boards with mindless bickering/ They do NOTHING constructive. Actually I don`t think most of them are trolls. Maybe Tree_UK who`s clearly bent on killing this game before it gets fixed. Others? "No-lifers" who act like 12 year old brats mad over their NES not working.

I think it´s close to criminal to sell this broken game twice. To "welcome" new people to this "stfu, your rig just sucks!" / "it will be fixed!" mess. Even though this game works for some, there still are too many people suffering from poor performance.

Excellent. You have come to use the word criminal to describe the bahaviour. Really? Then maybe you should go to whatever customer right department you have in your country and report it. I`m sure they will listen.
.....or maybe they will laugh their a$$e$ off.

I think this constant stream of "whinig" should really be here and stand as a warning. You shouldn´t be able to sell the crap and get away with it

Let alone do it twice!

Is this really so hard for you to understand Carguy?

You can do this in a polite way. Really you can. You don`t have to post false information, you don`t have to swear, you don`t have to attack those who are satisfied with this game. And nobody will ban you for it.
Is that so hard to understand?

[RocketDog]

Originally Posted by carguy_

That is simply not true. If this game came out as is, with support discountinued, then you would be right. The support however stands and continues.

Is this true? One of the worst things about CloD is the terrible daytime landscapes that just don't look anything like the real South of England (and I live there and I fly over it in gliders so I know what it should look like in daytime). The colours in CloD are just wrong. Yet there is no indication that the devs even recognise there is a problem to solve.

Maybe I've missed a post somewhere? If not, it looks like they are proposing to dump their fanatasy cartoon version of England on us and just walk away.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by RocketDog

Is this true? One of the worst things about CloD is the terrible daytime landscapes that just don't look anything like the real South of England (and I live there and I fly over it in gliders so I know what it should look like in daytime). The colours in CloD are just wrong. Yet there is no indication that the devs even recognise there is a problem to solve.

Thank you for giving me something to answer to. I wouldn`t call the landscape exactly terrible. I voted in the poll that it needs improvements because I trust in what Englishmen are saying. I`m sure the problem is recognized, mostly because in last patch we got the change of colors in readme listed. If it`s still too bad for you then I`d wait. There are other problems which need to be fixed first.
But surely, this doesn`t stop or even diminish my fun with this game to be honest.

[Vittuuntunut]

Originally Posted by carguy_

... I also bought this game for multiplayer and I can`t fly online, but I know all this will come. In the meantime I play other games, and mostly LIVE to do other , more important things in life. For example today in the morning I traveled 50 miles to hospital to take my cousin who had a surgery knee operation, went back , set him up in his house and here I am writing at the forums. He won`t be able to play basketball no more.
You seem to have only the PC in your life. That is not good, you should change it. Maybe do something for other people for a change.

Oh, please! Of course there are more important things in life and much worse things can happend than ending up buying a bad videogame (and sorry ´bout your cousin). That is self-explanatory.

BUT, when I want to discuss or do something about, for example, the third world poverty & hunger, I do it elsewhere. If I want to discuss the lack of human rights somewhere, I go to Amnesty-forums. If I on the other hand want to discuss about the bad product I bought and possibly warn others not to make same mistake, I come here. SINCE I BOUGHT THIS GAME AND EXPECTED IT TO BE EVEN REASONABLY GOOD OR REASONALBLY QUICKLY PATCHABLE!

This forums is for this game, it´s pros and cons. So far the cons seem to outnumber the pros for many, and for many (like me) , patches seem to do little good. AND what is most important, the marketing "strategy" of 1C is laughable and should not be tolerated.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Vittuuntunut

Oh, please! Of course there are more important things in life and much worse things can happend than ending up buying a bad videogame (and sorry ´bout your cousin). That is self-explanatory.

You are beginning to understand. My time here is rewarded more than I wanted to then.

BUT, when I want to discuss or do something about, for example, the third world poverty & hunger, I do it elsewhere. If I want to discuss the lack of human rights somewhere, I go to Amnesty-forums. If I on the other hand want to discuss about the bad product I bought and possibly warn others not to make same mistake, I come here. SINCE I BOUGHT THIS GAME AND EXPECTED IT TO BE EVEN REASONABLY GOOD OR REASONALBLY QUICKLY PATCHABLE!

Be sure to check out the Ubisoft CloD forums then. That`s the place to talk about it unless you are in Russia.
Here`s the link :
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8071032709 .

This forum comes with the offtopic section

aaaaaaaand guess what?

Carguy_ is banned there!

This forums is for this game, it´s pros and cons. So far the cons seem to outnumber the pros for many, and for many (like me) , patches seem to do little good. AND what is most important, the marketing "strategy" of 1C is laughable and should not be tolerated.

The problem is that you tend to impose, even force your own views. Sadly this comes with posting false information about the game. That is wrong and should be corrected for the buyers`s sake.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by carguy_

You are beginning to understand. My time here is rewarded more than I wanted to then.



Be sure to check out the Ubisoft CloD forums then. That`s the place to talk about it unless you are in Russia.
Here`s the link :
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8071032709 .

This forum comes with the offtopic section

aaaaaaaand guess what?

Carguy_ is banned there!


The problem is that you tend to impose, even force your own views. Sadly this comes with posting false information about the game. That is wrong and should be corrected for the buyers`s sake.

Carguy..your banned there? No!

Anyway...

I wouldnt say not getting an update is posting false information about a game which would hinder sales...I would of thought alot of the US buyers have been following these forums for quite some time, i would also think that they have there own thoughts in regards to communication given this isnt just a game that needs a patch..i think we can safely say that and that Us..me n You have been tolerant and will continue to do so..

I would put quite a large some of money down on the lack of promises kept which one of them were only made clear today (community officer) after it was announced how long ago and the lack of communication has had an affect on sales..

I just assumed that this forum and other forums releated to this game would of had a lil read me with progress that the last time we heard anything was 2 weeks ago and that was 'thin' to say the least

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Carguy..your banned there? No!

Oh but yes! Courtesy of Freycinet.

I wouldnt say not getting an update is posting false information about a game which would hinder sales...I would of thought alot of the US buyers have been following these forums for quite some time, i would also think that they have there own thoughts in regards to communication given this isnt just a game that needs a patch..i think we can safely say that and that Us..me n You have been tolerant and will continue to do so..

Yes, that is the point I`m making. You see I`m not trying to impose my vision of this game as it is. It is clear now that I`m exceptionally satisfied with the game, given the general user response. Yet I do not post daily that the landscape is lovely, the game runs with no stutters whatsoever or that the mp sound bug is non existant. On thiso forum the view must be faced by opposite view so the potential buyer (checking what he wants to buy unlike many ppl here) can make his own mind up about whether he wants to risk it or not. Because yes, in order to enjoy this game n its current state you have to work with your PC a little (my game configuration time alone is almost 4 hours) and see the good sides of it.
Always when one`s seeking information on a subject, he has to view the two sides of the coin to see the real picture. This is what I`m standing by.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Oh but yes! Courtesy of Freycinet.


Yes, that is the point I`m making. You see I`m not trying to impose my vision of this game as it is. It is clear now that I`m exceptionally satisfied with the game, given the general user response. Yet I do not post daily that the landscape is lovely, the game runs with no stutters whatsoever or that the mp sound bug is non existant. On thiso forum the view must be faced by opposite view so the potential buyer (checking what he wants to buy unlike many ppl here) can make his own mind up about whether he wants to risk it or not. Because yes, in order to enjoy this game n its current state you have to work with your PC a little (my game configuration time alone is almost 4 hours) and see the good sides of it.
Always when one`s seeking information on a subject, he has to view the two sides of the coin to see the real picture. This is what I`m standing by.

Agreed..though personally for me its news updates, and that to me sells games, especially this one in the current form its in...no of course they dont have too i just thought you would want too... and as you say especially because you hear about the bad stuff but no so much the good stuff...

Then you could go back and say, if those updates were there you woudnt have such a negativity about the place (yes 'some' would still be here) and people becoming worried/angry etc etc which then leads to the likes of you and I defending the game in whatever way we see fit which then turns this forum into a troll/slag fest whiners,moaners whatever label people want to use instead of the forums of old (some) where it was a friendly community which was in place to help each other