What aircraft would a Battle for Moscow senario need?

[Rather peeved]

Originally Posted by wannabetheace

MiGs
LaGGs
Yaks
Polikarpovs
Tus
ILs

yeah - but which Yaks and Las?

early Yaks and Las suck. late Yaks and Las are beautiful.

Also - which German aircraft? is it just the Bf 109 E again?

Also - could we see lend lease aicraft such as tomahawks, cannon armed spits and hurricanes and cobras?


Howabout the Fliesser Storch etc.

OT but OnT

i wish this future update thread was about the pacific era !

[wannabetheace]

Originally Posted by Rather peeved

yeah - but which Yaks and Las?

early Yaks and Las suck. late Yaks and Las are beautiful.


Howabout the Fliesser Storch etc.

I guess only yak-1, and LaGG1 and LaGG3, no Las for sure.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by Rather peeved

Also - which German aircraft? is it just the Bf 109 E again?

Also - could we see lend lease aicraft such as tomahawks, cannon armed spits and hurricanes and cobras?


Howabout the Fliesser Storch etc.

There would be some Emils but most units would have Friedrichs, and there might have been some lend lease planes for the Russians but I'm not sure where and how many.

The Storch would have definitely been around as well as the FW189, and the Ju52, and dozens of other bit players.

The Freidrich pretty much Pwns everything in the sky between the beginning of Barbarossa, and the Battle for Moscow. (assuming it's flown right)

[Pudfark]

Knot to sound like sour grapes....but some that work like they are supposed too.

[csThor]

For Germany it would probably be

Bf 109 E-7 (as fighter-bomber)
Bf 109 F-2
Bf 110 C/D/E (fighter-bomber and strategic recon)
Ju 88 A-4/5
Ju 88 D (strategic recon)
He 111 H-3 / H-6
Hs 126
Hs 123
Ju 87 B-2
Ju 52
Fi 156

For the VVS

I-16 (ShKAS-armed types)
I-153 (ShKAS-armed types)
LaGG-3
MiG-3
Yak-1
Pe-2
Il-2
+ more that I can't remember now

[JG53Frankyboy]

LW
Bf109F-2/-4, Bf109E-7/B, Bf110D/E, Hs123 ( ), Ju87B-2/D-1, He111H-6, Ju88A-5/-4, Hs126

VVS
Yak1, MiG3, LaGG3,P-40B/C, I16, I153, Il2 (only singleseaters !), DB3, SB2, Pe2, Pe3, R5/R-Z

[Seeker]

You're all missing the Spitfire.

I sure as hell don't want to spend another six years stuck in a Yak labelled washing machine waiting for the next big thing in flight sims.

[csThor]

No Bf 109 F-4, AFAIK no unit engaged in Taifun was equipped with them.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by csThor

No Bf 109 F-4, AFAIK no unit engaged in Taifun was equipped with them.

i dont care if there will be no F-4 in "Battle for Moskau" , as long there will be the FieldMod posibility for the F-2 to arm it with a MG151/20

i see, for our "anglo-american" friends it realy would have been better if 1C would have choosen something from the MTO as next AdOn Battlescenario
or at least something from later EasternFront
Kuban Spring 43 would have been my choice for that:
the Kuban map is still one of my favorites from classic IL2. So Shipattacks would also be possible....and well, a lot of 'wanted' aircraft there: Fw190 (even they were as groundattack planes there), Lend and lease Spitfire V, P-39.
But perhaps too much totaly new ones..... with the early Moskau scenario at least the LW ones are , some more some less, modifications of the BoB LW ones

at least the P-40B/C should be made flyable in the Moskau scenario, as it came in service in october 1941 around Moskau.