April 27, 2011(!!!) - Beta Patch #2 - It's old thread

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Would it be possible to have some clarification on the issue of Ati cards staying at low clock speeds? This has been improved for me with the last beta patch as it went from "desktop mode" 240Mhz up to 500Mhz when i'm in the sim, but it still won't go up to 850Mhz which is the maximum (non-overclocked) factory setting for my 4890. The difference is that it runs at 20-30 FPS at 500Mhz, while at 850Mhz it can easily go into the mid 50s.

The reason i'm asking is that maybe we could help resolve this faster. For example, is it something that will have to be patched in the sim to enable catalyst to recognize a game is being run and throttle up the GPU, or is it a driver issue and we're better off reporting it to Ati/AMD directly?

If any of you fellow with access to the Russian forums could tell us about any possible information on this issue it would be much appreciated

I used Ati tray tools to force the clock speeds to 850Mhz but i don't know what other settings to use (cooling fan? voltage? etc) to keep the GPU running stable.
I do get 50 FPS over most kinds of terrain, 25-30 over London and 20-25 in the Black Death track with the clocks set that way, but it ends up rebooting my PC after 40 minutes or so.

This doesn't happen in any other game where catalyst/drivers automatically runs the GPU at 850Mhz so i doubt it's an issue of overheating (GPU temps hover no higher than 60-65 degrees anyway), but i don't know what kind of other settings the drivers possibly change when throttling up the GPU.

Just seconding this, I have exactly the same issue with my 5770 and until this is resolved, those of us with this problem are essentially running on crippled hardware. It's not just the 69xx series, it seems spread over a wide range of ATI cards. Please fix this!!

[#402FOX]

Originally Posted by Orpheus

Just seconding this, I have exactly the same issue with my 5770 and until this is resolved, those of us with this problem are essentially running on crippled hardware. It's not just the 69xx series, it seems spread over a wide range of ATI cards. Please fix this!!

Guys I run a Asus 6850 and i have never had the problems with the card not ramping up in game. All versions of the game have been ok for me in regard to clock speeds on GPU. I have also used diffrent versions of Ati drivers 11.1 thru to 11.4.

sys specs

AMD Athlon II x4 @ 3.2GHz
4 Gig ram
Ati 6850 1 gig
Windows Vista 32bit

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Thee_oddball

Black are u sure that it is not maxing out the settings once the action starts? i have an ATI card aswell and it will not move beyond idle till the action begins.

S!

What i did was open my catalyst panel and go to the tab where it shows the clocks. Then, once i'm in the game i alt-tab out and check it. I have tried the same with Ati tray tools and the findings are similar.
Pre-patch: GPU clock stuck at 240Mhz.
With the latest beta patch installed: GPU clock increased to 500Mhz.

It's a bit weird, since the GPU's factory settings (MSI Cyclone Ati 4890 1GB) specify 850Mhz.

Could it be that it starts scaling back down once i alt-tab out of it to check it, in which case i'd need another 3rd party tool that can be run as an overlay on top of the sim to really see what's going on?

On the other hand i'm pretty confident it doesn't "throttle up", since i can easily see the difference in FPS (confirmed by the in-game FPS counter) between running what the driver wants and forcing it to 850Mhz with Ati Tray Tools. Leaving CCC to manage it i currently get 20-30 FPS on a mission with a high amount of things to render, forcing it to use the factory specified maximum clock speeds gives me 50+.

The only problem is that forcing it via ATT ends up with a crash and reboot every 40 minutes because i'm only changing the clock speeds, i don't know what kind of fan speeds and voltages to use (which would be automatically taken care of by the driver if it was being recognized the same way my other games are).

[AARPRazorbacks]

Looks like we may not get the new Patch for another week if thy are on holiday.

flyer01

[Hunden]

[QUOTE=Blackdog_kt;277044]What i did was open my catalyst panel and go to the tab where it shows the clocks. Then, once i'm in the game i alt-tab out and check it. I have tried the same with Ati tray tools and the findings are similar.
Pre-patch: GPU clock stuck at 240Mhz.
With the latest beta patch installed: GPU clock increased to 500Mhz.

It's a bit weird, since the GPU's factory settings (MSI Cyclone Ati 4890 1GB) specify 850Mhz.

Could it be that it starts scaling back down once i alt-tab out of it to check it, in which case i'd need another 3rd party tool that can be run as an overlay on top of the sim to really see what's going on?

That is exactly what is happening. clock speeds drop as soon as the action stops. I check clock speeds with a second monitor on with the ATI control center open on it. I'm sure your operating at 850Mhz until you stop playing to check clock speeds.

[Thee_oddball]

@1600x1200 settings high (except shadows) the patch reduced my FPS by half from 40 to 20 on a dedicated DF channel map server even with vsync and AA off.

S!

[Luftrofl]

Originally Posted by Hunden

That is exactly what is happening. clock speeds drop as soon as the action stops. I check clock speeds with a second monitor on with the ATI control center open on it. I'm sure your operating at 850Mhz until you stop playing to check clock speeds.

That contradicts his huge fps gains from forcing max clocks. I am having the same issue with my 5750 locking at 400MHz and I know for a fact it IS NOT operating past the 400MHz limit at any point while I play CoD.

[Thee_oddball]

blackdog and Orpheus are u both running MSI cards?
here is someone with the same problem (however old)
http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...hreadid=142356

theyu talk about a hot fix...and the last one i can find is here (68/900 cards)
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...11aHotfix.aspx

maybe you guys should try some older drivers

S!

[Rattlehead]

[QUOTE=Hunden;277122]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

That is exactly what is happening. clock speeds drop as soon as the action stops. I check clock speeds with a second monitor on with the ATI control center open on it. I'm sure your operating at 850Mhz until you stop playing to check clock speeds.

In GPU-Z, there is a checkbox that you tick: 'Continue refreshing this screen while GPU-Z is in the backround.'

Start the game in windowed mode and keep the GPU-Z screen open...that should tell you what clocks your card is running at, provided you tick the checkbox. In the game menus, the card powered down, but once the action starts the card should ramp up to full speed.

[TonyD]

Originally Posted by #402FOX

Guys I run a Asus 6850 and i have never had the problems with the card not ramping up in game. All versions of the game have been ok for me in regard to clock speeds on GPU. I have also used diffrent versions of Ati drivers 11.1 thru to 11.4.

sys specs

AMD Athlon II x4 @ 3.2GHz
4 Gig ram
Ati 6850 1 gig
Windows Vista 32bit

Yeah, me neither. Strange how it has affected some cards and not others. I could understand it if it wasn't running in 'true' desktop mode (as it was a patch or two ago), but not now -?