Beta Patch-Good/Bad. All discussions here please.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Hveding

6-8 years, is that not more than needed to this game ?
Would say that they are slow... The avarge time for making a BIG game is... 2-4 years ? And these guys use 6-8 years and still not done ?
A week or two... I dont think soo. Would say 1-2 years before it's done ^^

Ehr, BIG games often have a MUCH larger development team and a much bigger budget. Also, Gears of War -i.e- doesn't contain super advanced physics, damage modeling (head shots are not advanced DM) and hundreds of historically detailed vehicles and weapons. Can't compare apples with oranges.

[norulz]

Originally Posted by addman

Can't compare apples with oranges.

Actually we can. I had eat both of them and I can see the differences and similarities between them.

people that insist that two very comparable objects cannot be compared are actually afraid of what the comparison result will reveal.

same case here.

[addman]

Originally Posted by norulz

Actually we can. I had eat both of them and I can see the differences and similarities between them.

people that insist that two very comparable objects cannot be compared are actually afraid of what the comparison result will reveal.

same case here.

Ok, so you would compare Farmville with Civilization IV?

[avioni]

Originally Posted by addman

Ok, so you would compare Farmville with Civilization IV?

what is your point?

there is no excuse for releasing an unfinished game unplayable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVUSp1V3cVw

watch the game trailer again. tell me you dont feel fooled. pre-renderd BS

[jibo]

sim games are very heavy, it takes years to develop a complex new engine from scratch
don't worry haters no one will that anymore

[avioni]

there is no haters here, there is only p**sed off people who payd good money for this.

[jibo]

you're a simmer right ?
for how long time did you play il2 ?
for how long time will play CoD when it'll will be fixed ?

so please don't talk about "money" while other are working 10h/day to make this possible

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by avioni

there is no haters here, there is only p**sed off people who payd good money for this.

Why did you buy it without checking how well it worked?

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by norulz

Actually we can. I had eat both of them and I can see the differences and similarities between them.

people that insist that two very comparable objects cannot be compared are actually afraid of what the comparison result will reveal.

same case here.

You're completely missing the spirit of that idiom, but nevermind that.

Compare all you like, but do it intelligently. What do you know about the production of CoD vs. other major titles? What was CoD's production budget? What were the staffing levels at Maddox Games? How many testers did they employ? What kind of support were they given by third party companies (nVidia, AMD, Microsoft, Valve, etc.)?

If you're comparing apples and oranges and you say "I like apples better" you don't expect God to patch the oranges until they're just as good, do you? Nope, you decide you're just not that into oranges and you leave them alone.

Releasing an unfinished game is disappointing, yes. But inexcusable? To who? You could have waited to see if it was going to run well or if it was in a finished state.

How many games have you purchased that have been in need of repair upon launch? I'm willing to bet more than games than CoD.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

If you're going to buy ANY game at launch, be prepared for this stuff or stay away from it. It's sad that the game industry is like that now, but it is and it is across the board.

[hoarmurath]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

You're completely missing the spirit of that idiom, but nevermind that.

Compare all you like, but do it intelligently. What do you know about the production of CoD vs. other major titles? What was CoD's production budget? What were the staffing levels at Maddox Games? How many testers did they employ? What kind of support were they given by third party companies (nVidia, AMD, Microsoft, Valve, etc.)?

If you're comparing apples and oranges and you say "I like apples better" you don't expect God to patch the oranges until they're just as good, do you? Nope, you decide you're just not that into oranges and you leave them alone.

So, all you are doing here is finding them excuses for releasing a game in an unfinished, unplayable state.

It doesn't change anything to the fact that the game is unfinished and unplayable.