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[OldBuzzard]

Originally Posted by meshuggahs

After 10 years of service Win XP is still the most used windows OS. So in no way POS.

Why do you think we're still stuck with dx9 as minimum requirement in all games?

Maybe if you include business, but for gamers...Look at these STEAM stats:

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WINDOWS VERSION OCT NOV DEC JAN FEB

Windows 7 64 bit 35.04% 35.88% 36.14% 37.30% 39.02% +1.72%

Windows XP 32 bit 27.88% 26.75% 26.26% 24.95% 23.59% -1.36%

Windows Vista 32 bit 14.34% 14.29% 14.27% 14.05% 13.47% -0.58%

Windows Vista 64 bit 9.11% 9.89% 10.23% 10.73% 11.35% +0.62%

Windows 7 12.40% 11.91% 11.79% 11.59% 11.22% -0.37%

Windows XP 64 bit 0.81% 0.84% 0.92% 0.95% 0.95% 0.00%

Windows 2003 64 bit 0.30% 0.33% 0.28% 0.30% 0.29% -0.01%

And, if you look at this page you will see that almost 62% of Steam users are using Dx10 and Dx11 GPUs.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Like I said XP needs to DIE! It's SO 20th Century.

[meshuggahs]

Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

Maybe if you include business, but for gamers...Look at these STEAM stats:
Like I said XP needs to DIE! It's SO 20th Century.

So even on pro-gamer segment its almost 25%! That say's something imho.

Tho overall I blame the consoles that new games are made for old hardware.

But yeah, 64bit is among us finally. Maybe we'll see some true 64bit games in the next few years and not just 32bit ones patched to 64, which is +-0 useful.

[kingpinda]

Originally Posted by meshuggahs

But yeah, 64bit is among us finally. Maybe we'll see some true 64bit games in the next few years and not just 32bit ones patched to 64, which is +-0 useful.

The one I know about is DCS-A10C. When you install it, it will ask if you want to install the 86x file also. So default is 64bit and if you don't have a 64bit platform you can opt for the 32bit version alongside it. Losing offcourse the ability to use all your memory. (if you have heaps)

Because of this particular title naturalpoint needed to conjur up a 64bit version of the trackir software. Being the first (I think) 64bit simulation or game even naturally gave some problems. But the hurdles have already been taken.

Its a whole different concept though. The DCS engine and stuff will be improved with each new addition to the DCS World. In DCS blackshark it was still 32 bit. Now in A-10C its 64 bit with some of the workload of the soundsystem on a different cpu-core and in the future multiple cores will be better supported etc etc. Whereas IL2 cliffs of dover relies on a completed engine I think. I may be wrong. Hopefully they left enough room to further advance the system/engine with new expansions without having to reinvent the wheel.

Correct me if I am wrong but if we are not having a 64bit launcher does that mean no DX11?

[kingpinda]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Correct me if I am wrong but if we are not having a 64bit launcher does that mean no DX11?

What i've read so far about DX11 is suggesting it has nothing to do with 64bit.

DX11 is merely an improvement concerning gpgpu support, improved multithreading and shadermodel 5.0 (in a nutshell :p)

Originally Posted by kingpinda

What i've read so far about DX11 is suggesting it has nothing to do with 64bit.

DX11 is merely an improvement concerning gpgpu support, improved multithreading and shadermodel 5.0 (in a nutshell :p)

yes but DX11 wont work with windows XP, with the majority of windows 7 users opting for 64bit it would surley make sense to make a 64bit launcher to use all that ram.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

yes but DX wont work with windows XP, with the majority of windows 7 users opting for 64bit it would surley make sense to make a 64bit launcher to use all that ram.

The game does not need more than 2.6GBs of ram to run, what advantage would you gain from increasing the load on the ram...?

[kingpinda]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

yes but DX wont work with windows XP, with the majority of windows 7 users opting for 64bit it would surley make sense to make a 64bit launcher to use all that ram.

True I would guess but seemingly that doesnt mean you can't use dx11 on a 32 bit platform. But then again i'm a layman on this subject so i could be terribly wrong. I have never read anything about DX11 solely needing a 64bit platform. I mean you WOULD NEED a 64bit platform to even start up a 64bit application offcourse not to mention a 64bit cpu

Nowadays 64bit cpu's are mainstream but 64bit platforms are not. I think the gap is still a tad to big. To expect everybody to go OS64bit that is. Its coming no doubt. But will take a while before everybody has jumped over to 64bit.

Hehe I know people who have 6gig ram on their win7 32bit OS :p

Originally Posted by Hecke

Why not let the game use all the free amount of ram you have?
I guess that would kill some freezes that are due to caching from HDD.

Yes that would be worthwhile were it not that the game is as far as i know it 32bit.
I might do a fresh reinstall of windows7 64bit and use my sas 15k drive for windows and il2/DCS A-10C only. I know users who were having problems getting DCS A-10C to work fluently switched over to SSD's.