Hyperthreading - Finally an answer

[kendo65]

I think Oleg was genuinely answering whether a hyper-threading processor (eg i7-2600K) would give any advantage over a non hyper-threading (eg i5-2500K) [so to answer Feuerfalke - not all multi-core CPUs use hyper-threading]

His answer maybe reflects the results of some testing done by Custom PC mag when the Sandy Bridges came out:

in Crysis on their test system (DX10, 64-bit, 1680x1050, no AA)

i7-2600K
min fps = 36

average fps = 64

i5-2500K
min fps = 34

average fps = 60

There you have it - Crysis takes advantage of hyperthreading too, 'but not so much'

(As others have remarked there is much confusion on the go over hyper-threading V multi-threading.)



...and just to confuse things further, when the 2 processors were overclocked the i5-2500K had higher min fps (42 V 37), and equal average fps to the i7-2600K (both 67). Apparently, hyper-threading doesn't respond so well to overclocking. Underlines the fact that things are more complicated than they may at first appear.


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I went for the i5-2500K, but hey, it's your money

To be really safe wait another week and then check up on the feedback

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by kendo65

I think Oleg was genuinely answering whether a hyper-threading processor (eg i7-2600K) would give any advantage over a non hyper-threading (eg i5-2500K)

His answer maybe reflects the results of some testing done by Custom PC mag when the Sandy Bridges came out:

in Crysis on their test system (DX10, 64-bit, 1680x1050, no AA)

i7-2600K
min fps = 36

average fps = 64

i5-2500K
min fps = 34

average fps = 60

There you have it - Crysis takes advantage of hyperthreading too, 'but not much'

(As others have remarked there is much confusion on the go over hyper-threading V multi-threading.)



...and just to confuse things further, when the 2 processors were overclocked the i5-2500K had higher min fps (42 V 37), and equal average fps to the i7-2600K (both 67). Apparently, hyper-threading doesn't respond so well to overclocking. Underlines the fact that things are more complicated than they may at first appear.


!!!

I went for the i5-2500K, but hey, it's your money

Yea well it would have to use more than 4 threads to be "hyperthreaded", for intel cpus. Crysis is getting a bit dated now as most people were on single or early duos when it was released. On the positive side if the game uses 4 threads and you buy a i7 with hyperthreading, you can run the OS and other software on the spare threads on the cores with the least cpu load.

[Novotny]

Depends on how rich you are, really. Are 2-3 fps worth a 100 quid to you? Buy a 2600.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Novotny

Depends on how rich you are, really. Are 2-3 fps worth a 100 quid to you? Buy a 2600.

That's the bottom line for me as well. Whatever the hardware component in question, if i pay an extra 1/3rd of the price i expect an extra 1/3rd of performance too, but since that never happens i just buy the second best component and save enough money to possibly upgrade another one.

This is a better strategy overall and gives better all around performance, assuming you are a mere mortal like the majority of us and don't have an endless supply of money. If you really are super rich case go ahead and buy the best you can find across the board, but for the majority of people it doesn't work out that way
For example, one could buy the top of the line CPU, or the second best CPU and an extra 3-4GB of DDR3 RAM for the same price (depending on whether he runs a dual or tripple channel mobo) or an SSD, etc.

@OlegMaddox
And what about more than 4 Cores?

"4 - yes, more can't aswer without consulting from programmers. Night here."


Oleg doesn't really seem well informed about how his engine works ...

Originally Posted by Hecke

@OlegMaddox
And what about more than 4 Cores?

"4 - yes, more can't aswer without consulting from programmers. Night here."


Oleg doesn't really seem well informed about how his engine works ...

hardware utilisation is not his area...why do you think he should be a superman? Is there a superman? Where?

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

hardware utilisation is not his area...why do you think he should be a superman? Is there a superman? Where?

Superman? Did anybody say superman?

Oleg saying that current hardware isn't good enough || Oleg not knowing if the engine can handle the hardware efficiently.


I find it paradox, but that's just me.

[maclean525]

You ABSOLUTELY want to spend the extra money for the K series chips because those are overclockable. Those chips overclock very well and have a massive performance benefit over the non-K series.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by maclean525

You ABSOLUTELY want to spend the extra money for the K series chips because those are overclockable. Those chips overclock very well and have a massive performance benefit over the non-K series.

This is not the discussion of this thread. Of course that k series is recommended. No on here is saying otherwise.

Originally Posted by maclean525

You ABSOLUTELY want to spend the extra money for the K series chips because those are overclockable. Those chips overclock very well and have a massive performance benefit over the non-K series.

That's not the question. I guess nobody would not want to overclock these k sandy bitches.